Does icloud backup wifi passwords?

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  1. LoveToMacRumors macrumors 68020

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  2. mlemonds macrumors 6502a

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    It is part of keychain I believe
     
  3. Shirasaki macrumors 603

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    Works for iTunes so I guess it works for iCloud as well.
    Part of keychain.
     
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    Thats for iTunes encrypted. But iCloud backup is the same as an iTunes encrypted.
     
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    yes & its nothing to do with keychain...i dont & never have enabled keychain, wifi networks with passwords are remembered fine
     
  8. JT2002TJ macrumors 6502a

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    I would assume if you do not have keychain enabled it still stores them, but if you do have it enabled it uses keychain...

    Before keychain, iOS devices used to share wifi credentials. I think once you enable keychain, it stores all that info in there.
     
  9. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    According to Apple's backup site, passwords are not in the list of what is backed up. Keychains are, but not individual WiFi passwords.

    https://support.apple.com/kb/ph12519?locale=en_US
    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303

    Encrypted Backups in iTunes does save passwords: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205220

    It specifically mentions it, unlike iCloud backup.
     
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    @Mlrollin91 but it's ambiguous since it says icloud backup stores "Device settings". wifi passwords certainly are part of device settings.
     
  11. AbSoluTc macrumors 68040

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    It is not.
     
  12. Mlrollin91, Feb 13, 2017
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    Yes it is. An iCloud backup includes all the things that an iTunes encrypted does.

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205220


    "iTunes doesn't encrypt your backups by default. To encrypt a backup in iTunes for the first time, you need to turn on the password-protected Encrypt backup option. Then, iTunes automatically makes encrypted backups for that device from then on."

    "You can also make a backup in iCloud, which automatically encrypts your information every time."
     
  13. AbSoluTc macrumors 68040

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    I know it does not store health data and keychains unless that changed.
     
  14. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

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    What are you talking about. All that is backed up in iCloud backups. It has stored health and keychain data since iOS 8.

    Did you even read your own support article, that is listed under iTunes backup, not iCloud.

    An iCloud backup is the same exact thing as an encrypted iTunes.
     
  15. AbSoluTc macrumors 68040

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    I don't fully believe everything Apple publishes as 100% true unless I have experienced it or the overwhelming majority concurs. I have been doing IT for many years and have learned, a lot of things are not correctly explained or work as smoothly and as advertised.

    So yeah, I've read the article. The only thing that is not the same are Apps. iTunes will back those up and restore. iCloud backup does not. It is also recommended that if you have a large backup, iTunes w/Encryption is the fastest/best method.

    I use iCloud as a secondary/fail safe option. I only restore/backup using iTunes when necessary.
     
  16. Mlrollin91, Feb 13, 2017
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    iCloud backup does for 100% include health and keychains as I did a restore last month. If you go check your iCloud backup on your device in settings, it will show health data as a toggle that can be enable/disabled if you want.

    Give me 5 minutes and I will post a screenshot of my device. But like you, I only use iCloud as a failsafe as well, iTunes encrypted in my primary. It failed a month ago, so I needed to use iCloud. 10.2 introduced a nasty bug with iTunes backups that cause them to become corrupt.

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