Does (iCloud/Mavericks) generating password feature actually work with iOS apps?

OverSpun

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I'm obviously running Mavericks and iOS7.

Example: I reset my ebay password on my laptop with the "suggest" generating password and done with it.

-I have iCloud Keychain enabled on my iPhone but I can't tell why the iCloud passwords would fill my apps i.e. the eBay app since nobody would ever be able to remember the generating passwords that Mavericks makes.

Let me know if I'm missing something unless the iCloud Keychain is a complete failure for apps unless you only use Safari since that's the only way that I've made it work.

TIA
 
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I'm obviously running Mavericks and iOS7.

Example: I reset my ebay password on my laptop with the "suggest" generating password and done with it.

-I have iCloud Keychain enabled on my iPhone but I can't tell why the iCloud passwords would fill my apps i.e. the eBay app since nobody would ever be able to remember the generating passwords that Mavericks makes.

Let me know if I'm missing something unless the iCloud Keychain is a complete failure for apps unless you only use Safari since that's the only way that I've made it work.

TIA
Keychains are for safari not apps.
 
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afsnyder

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Some googling proved that "some" 3rd party apps are compatible with icloud passwords unless I'm doing it wrong. It's definitely inconvenient with ios apps.
I'm not sure there's any iCloud Keychain API...
 
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This is one of the reasons why I went with a password manager like 1Password. iCloud Keychain is great, but if you want to suggest a password outside of Safari it's useless.
 
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whsbuss

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This is one of the reasons why I went with a password manager like 1Password. iCloud Keychain is great, but if you want to suggest a password outside of Safari it's useless.
Yep sure is. I don't think Apple will ever let 3rd party apps access to the keychain. 1Password is a great solution but their 1Browser sucks.
 
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madsci954

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From Apple support documents

Does iCloud Keychain work with third-party apps?

Yes. Developers can update their apps to work with iCloud Keychain. Passwords saved by those apps are then kept up to date on all devices that use the app and running iOS 7.0.3 or later or OS X Mavericks v10.9 or later.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5813

So it just depends on the app. I tried this with my bank's app but they don't have it set up. I hope more devs use it in the future.

Better yet, if Apple allows, to work like Find My iPhone or Friends. If the device is locked with Touch ID/pin code/password, then you can just enter the app. If no lock is in place, then they have to sign in to access the app.
 
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matt2053

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From Apple support documents



http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5813

So it just depends on the app. I tried this with my bank's app but they don't have it set up. I hope more devs use it in the future.

Better yet, if Apple allows, to work like Find My iPhone or Friends. If the device is locked with Touch ID/pin code/password, then you can just enter the app. If no lock is in place, then they have to sign in to access the app.
Interesting. I have never come across a single native app on either iOS or OS X that uses iCloud Keychain. And I use a lot of apps!
 
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madsci954

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Interesting. I have never come across a single native app on either iOS or OS X that uses iCloud Keychain. And I use a lot of apps!
Maybe it's like when iCloud first launched, Apple was real mum on details and devs had to rely on one another to get the coding right. I'm not a dev so I can't say.
 
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matt2053

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Maybe it's like when iCloud first launched, Apple was real mum on details and devs had to rely on one another to get the coding right. I'm not a dev so I can't say.
It's interesting.... I saw the FAQ page you posted earlier and it definitely says that developers can access iCloud keychain from 3rd party apps-- but I can find NO documentation regarding this in the developer resource documents.
 
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OverSpun

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It's interesting.... I saw the FAQ page you posted earlier and it definitely says that developers can access iCloud keychain from 3rd party apps-- but I can find NO documentation regarding this in the developer resource documents.
IIRC, iOS8 may integrate iCloud Keychain with apps that was implied at WWDC. That would be very convenient because it's tiresome to change/remember passwords so often these days.
 
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matt2053

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IIRC, iOS8 may integrate iCloud Keychain with apps that was implied at WWDC. That would be very convenient because it's tiresome to change/remember passwords so often these days.
I found documentation about third party apps accessing Touch ID in iOS 8, but that wouldn't help on older devices. But maybe that's the method by which third party support is being added.
 
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