iPhone 7(+) Does ip8 camera better than ip7?

juhat1000

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Hello, my friend asking me should buy ip8 or ip7? For him an important feature is the camera quality. So, is the ip8 better camera than ip7?
 

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If camera is important, then iPhone XS/Max is what you want to get.

But yeah, iPhone 8 camera is a little better than 7...mainly the colors are better on the 8 due to new color filter. Sensor is marginally better on 8...same size, but newer.

But XS camera is far better than both. So, tell him that.
 

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Nope. The camera looks exactly the same, in fact the 8 camera is more yellowish than the 7.

Source : Own both.
 

pika2000

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Hello, my friend asking me should buy ip8 or ip7? For him an important feature is the camera quality. So, is the ip8 better camera than ip7?
7 and 8 are not too vastly different.
However, the XR/XS are hugely improved thanks to the A12.
 

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Add in to equation, base vs Plus models (aka dual lens, portrait mode).
 

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Hello, my friend asking me should buy ip8 or ip7? For him an important feature is the camera quality. So, is the ip8 better camera than ip7?
To be clear and the On the anecdotal side of things, I don’t think your friend would be able to differentiate the camera quality with photos from the iPhone 7 to the iPhone 8. I also owned both (Still using the 8 as a work phone) of those phones and I certainly can’t tell a difference, I think I take a decent enough photos to make a valid opinion.
 

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How much bigger
iPhone 4:
Sensor size: 1/3.2"
Lens: 4 elements

iPhone 4s and 5:
Sensor size: 1/3.2"
Lens: 5 elements

iPhone 5s and 6 and 6s:
Sensor size: 1/3.0"
Lens: 5 elements

iPhone 7/8/X:
Sensor size: 1/3.0"
Lens: 6 elements

iPhone XS/Xr:
Sensor size: 1/2.55"
Lens: 6 elements

Note above: elements count does NOT include the glass/sapphire covering. Of course, throughout the years, BSI, OIS, deep trenching with pixels, and IR filter improvements were all introduced along the way. Etc. But above is the basic camera design.
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Nope, not the same, not even the same sensor but sure
Sure go on with the Apple marketing instead of using both side by side like me and using your eyes. :rolleyes:
You might also believe the XS Max screen is better than the 8 Plus? They look exactly the same, except for higher brightness and deeper blacks. But sure. You would know. ;)
 
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Falhófnir

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This is a useful comparison tool:

https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=8573&idPhone2=8064&idPhone3=9318

Looks to me like the colour of the 8 is very slightly better, subtle but definitely noticeable if you look at the colour chart. It's also perhaps just a smidgen sharper on some of the finer details. Notably, for good light the XS actually isn't all that much of an improvement. Where the larger sensor others have mentioned comes into play is more dimly lit scenes (same number of pixels but each pixel is larger, therefore captures more light resulting in a lighter and less noisy photo). And if you switch to looking at the low light scene, yes you will indeed notice the XS retains a lot more finer detail in darker environments.
 

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This is a useful comparison tool:

https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=8573&idPhone2=8064&idPhone3=9318

Looks to me like the colour of the 8 is very slightly better, subtle but definitely noticeable if you look at the colour chart. It's also perhaps just a smidgen sharper on some of the finer details. Notably, for good light the XS actually isn't all that much of an improvement. Where the larger sensor others have mentioned comes into play is more dimly lit scenes (same number of pixels but each pixel is larger, therefore captures more light resulting in a lighter and less noisy photo). And if you switch to looking at the low light scene, yes you will indeed notice the XS retains a lot more finer detail in darker environments.
In good light, the BIG difference with XS is in the Smart HDR...where the highlights are not blown and the shadows have much more details.

HDR on 7/8 only controls the highlights and often adds too much contrast and makes the picture darker.

(And of course, smart HDR in VIDEO is a game-changer for XS.)
 

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In good light, the BIG difference with XS is in the Smart HDR...where the highlights are not blown and the shadows have much more details.

HDR on 7/8 only controls the highlights and often adds too much contrast and makes the picture darker.

(And of course, smart HDR in VIDEO is a game-changer for XS.)
This in depth testing would suggest you are putting a little too much stock into what Phil Schiller says on stage:

https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_xs-review-1827p6.php

By the looks of it, yes it's a nice to have, it does improve image quality, but it's certainly not quite an all caps big difference. Taking into consideration the extra premium of a xs over an 8 ($999 vs $599 at 64GB) - is it $400 better if the OP's friend is already happy to settle on a 4.7" form factor, with camera being the deciding difference?
 

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In this video at this time stamp, you can see
This in depth testing would suggest you are putting a little too much stock into what Phil Schiller says on stage:

https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_xs-review-1827p6.php

By the looks of it, yes it's a nice to have, it does improve image quality, but it's certainly not quite an all caps big difference. Taking into consideration the extra premium of a xs over an 8 ($999 vs $599 at 64GB) - is it $400 better if the OP's friend is already happy to settle on a 4.7" form factor, with camera being the deciding difference?
I have iPhone 7, X, and XS at home now. No need to read Apple's marketing. My eyes tell me everything i need.

XS Smart HDR in REAL world testing is MUCH better in daylight where ever there is highlights or deep shadows. There is just no comparison in pretty much every scenario.

Not sure about price difference or what the OP's friend cash flow is.......but to say that the difference is not that much is an understatement.

In video below...go to time stamp 4:30.

 

UnLiMiTeD558

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Sure go on with the Apple marketing instead of using both side by side like me and using your eyes. :rolleyes:
You might also believe the XS Max screen is better than the 8 Plus? They look exactly the same, except for higher brightness and deeper blacks. But sure. You would know. ;)
The fact that you’re trying trying say the 8 plus screen is just as good as xs max only further hurts the argument that you have any clue of what you’re talking about
 

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This in depth testing would suggest you are putting a little too much stock into what Phil Schiller says on stage:

https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_xs-review-1827p6.php

By the looks of it, yes it's a nice to have, it does improve image quality, but it's certainly not quite an all caps big difference. Taking into consideration the extra premium of a xs over an 8 ($999 vs $599 at 64GB) - is it $400 better if the OP's friend is already happy to settle on a 4.7" form factor, with camera being the deciding difference?
Well, to be fair, there are a lot of other improvements other than the camera for $400. There’s OLED screen, new design, FaceID, newer A12 chip, double the RAM, etc.

Of course, if one thinks all of those are not worth the extra money, the iPhone 8 is still a very competent phone.
 

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The fact that you’re trying trying say the 8 plus screen is just as good as xs max only further hurts the argument that you have any clue of what you’re talking about
Sure, you know it all. You have the best screen enjoy.
 

tt061282

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Sure go on with the Apple marketing instead of using both side by side like me and using your eyes. :rolleyes:
You might also believe the XS Max screen is better than the 8 Plus? They look exactly the same, except for higher brightness and deeper blacks. But sure. You would know. ;)
Thank God for this post. Some Apple
Sheep kill me with there this and that blah blah blah. I like Apple don’t get me wrong, but I definitely see why people call some of them “Sheep” they believe everything they get told.

That said to the OP... between the iPhone 7, 8 or iPhone X the differences are not HUGE. As a matter of fact the differences between camera and performance since the iPhone 7 was released is very insignificant.

The iPhone 7 will be a very usable device through 2021.
 

UnLiMiTeD558

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Sure, you know it all. You have the best screen enjoy.
I have an 8 plus and have used an xs max hand in hand many times. I’m clearly stating MY 8 plus screen is inferior. And very few people would ever agree with your statement, but feel free to keep your head in the sand on that one.
 

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The fact that you’re trying trying say the 8 plus screen is just as good as xs max only further hurts the argument that you have any clue of what you’re talking about
Now, I’m not involved in your argument with that member, but I do want to allude to that for those who can differentiate the true differences between OLED and LCD are far more technical when understanding displays. The average consumer likely cannot detect the differences between OLED and LCD. For those who I do know and have encountered how they can tell the difference between OLED versus LCD, is usually on a larger display like a TV, but on a smart phone, I say it’s negligible depending on who you’re talking to.