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iPhone SE (2016) Does it have a solid state home button?
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It will almost certainly be the same solid state button as in the 8. Has nothing to do with the screen.
Because it has the second generation Touch ID. There’s no way way they would go back to the First Gen tech and start re-manufacturing the old moving button. It’s a weak point, that’s why they did away with it.
Oh I thought the force touch button required the 3D touch technology. I figured that's why they removed the home button in the newer iPhones.
How is that regressing, if iPad never had second-generation Touch ID in the first place?
The solid state design wouldn't work well on iPads, since it uses the "taptic" engine to simulate the click. That doesn't work well on larger devices than phones. AFAIK none of the iPads have any vibrator at all.
I just got confirmation from Apple themselves that it is in fact a solid state home button.
Doing the dirty work. Makes complete sense from the waterproof standpoint.
....and also “non news”. This is akin to saying it also does not have a non-retina screen and is not a 3G phone.
But it clearly states it has a retina IPS display. It doesn't state anywhere ANYWHERE that the button is not mechanical. I figured it may not be since 3D touch is gone and it's the only recent non-3D-Touch iPhone that ALSO has a home button so I wanted to make sure.
Not really. A phone can have haptics for long presses, but the solid state button is actually a combination of physical touch and force applied before it's activated. The same cannot be said about long pressing an icon on your screen and feeling the phone vibrate. So I wouldn't say that's so implied.
The description mentions it "makes it feel like you're pressing a real, physical button" implying that the iPhone SE 2 does not have a real, physical button.
They're saying it's for press and hold, they don't mention anything about the home button. Yes you can press an icon, hold there for a few seconds, and then it will "feel like a physical button", but where's the mention of the home button being force sensitive?
If you press a physical button, you've pressed a physical button. No haptics needed to make it feel like one.
Besides, isn't force sensitive just for 3D Touch?
But they're talking about the screen, not the home button. You tap and HOLD on an icon until it makes a slight buzz feeling that makes it feel like you're pressing a real button. Where in there do you see that they're talking about the home button. It literally says icon.
Not regressing in the case of iPad, but it simply means they still manufacture the moving button, so it would be theoretically possible to have it on the SE. Anyways, now it's solved.
Ah yes, my bad. Missed the icons, thing. I always disable 3D touch on my iPhones so didn't occur to me that it was on screen.
Without it you get no water resistance, and the old mechanical buttons had a high failure rate compared to what came after them. Plus it was very easy to damage the old ones when doing any repairs unless you were careful with the ribbon connector, and once Touch ID was damaged on the 1st Gen Touch ID, it basically would never work again.
Agreed. I like the solid state button much better also because every button will feel the same and it won't wear out over time. I remember a long time ago when some home buttons felt squishy and some felt clicky and some were too deep and some sat above the glass (easy to fix with a razor blade though).
With the solid button, they all feel exactly the same.
6s had second gen Touch ID with physical button. However, I hear you. That seems Unlikely for this phone.