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Does anyone know whether the new M1 chip is faster than the chip in 16" macbook pro 2.4 i9?

Thanks
 
Probably not, my guess is that they have a super beefed up version of an M1 readying for 15"/16" MacBook Pros.
 
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nope. if it does, they would have introduced it along with the 13" air, pro and mini. On the side note, would 13" air be the only model with fan-less design? because I saw a fan in their 13" pro ad and there is a fan vent behind the mini as well.
 
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nope. if it does, they would have introduced it along with the 13" air, pro and mini. On the side note, would 13" air be the only model with fan-less design? because I saw a fan in their 13" pro ad and there is a fan vent behind the mini as well.
Yes, the Air is the only fan-less one.

I think the first question was asking whether the new 13” M1 chip is faster than the current Intel ones in the 16”.

I guess we should know soon...
 
I think it will depend on the specific task and how well the specific App being used is or is not optimized for the platform it is being tested on.
 
This is what I want to know too. I'm intrigued by the native iOS apps; and whether I should be looking to sell my 2019 16" 2.3 i9 to fund the purchase of a new M1 MBP13 (esp as I have far less need for it as a portable workstation these days)...
 
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Apple not disclosing the clock speed of their chips is typical. We'll have to wait til someone get their hands on the latest M1 MBA/P/mini and benchmark them.
 
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Are they gimping the M1 on the Air? If not, why not just get the Air (besides battery life)?
 
Just wait and see how it plays out & listen to feedback from early adopters before selling.
Yes, absolutely - having dropped £3k on a laptop a year ago I'm in no massive rush. TBH it's still plenty of machine for me and battery life is of no concern right now; the only thing I'm interested in is whether there's comparable or superior performance in a smaller package.

I'm looking for confirmation NOT to flip my laptop this year, unlike in the past!
 
Are they gimping the M1 on the Air? If not, why not just get the Air (besides battery life)?
Of course it will throttle after some time like the 12“MB without fan. In the pro the fan will help to keep clock speed up
 
Though the M1 has less high performance cores than the current 16” i9, each M1 core is about 10 percent faster than Intel’s best cores with much better IPC and performance per watt (miles ahead).

The Unified Memory Architecture means many things like loading apps and big files is faster.

Dedicated cores for Machine Learning makes this faster than Intel and AMD’s chips for those tasks.

The MacBook Pro 16” will probably have the successor M2 chip and I doubt Intel will have anything close to its performance.
 
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This is what I want to know too. I'm intrigued by the native iOS apps; and whether I should be looking to sell my 2019 16" 2.3 i9 to fund the purchase of a new M1 MBP13 (esp as I have far less need for it as a portable workstation these days)...
Is there a reason you want to sell so early? Do you need the speed for work?
 
Is there a reason you want to sell so early? Do you need the speed for work?

Not really; the i9 is a beast. I’m self employed and my role includes some photo and video work so I do use the power.

That said, I’m very interested in the ability to run iOS apps; the battery life will be good sometimes; and I always have an eye on the best time to flip
laptops and buy new ones so I don’t take the full hit at once.

If the M1 pros are as fast as the current i9’s, it might be worth selling sooner rather than later to get the best used price. If they’re not I’ll possibly live with this machine for a good while yet.

Just getting my facts together...
 
For video and photo work, most likely Apple's hatdware accelerators will come into play, which will complicate the speed comparison. For your purposes, it may not matter, as the accelerators will very much help speed your work load along massively, for the same reason that you can edit 2 4K streams of video and output the result so easily on an iPad Pro.

I don't know how the M1 will end up comparing to an i9 until we get actual units benchmarked. I do know how well the hardware accelerators in the A12X do with video editing in the iPad Pro, and expect that there will be better than iPad video processing in the M1 Macs.

I personally expect to see that the M1 MBP has a higher (to what degree is unknown at this time) clock speed than the MBA, which is pushing up TDP on the MBP to the point where it needs active cooling to prevent throttling for longer processes. For your workload though, it may not make much of a difference if the hardware accelerators are being engaged to do the heavy lifting for video.
 
MBA and MBP have 3.2gtz, mbp will sustain it for longer
For video and photo work, most likely Apple's hatdware accelerators will come into play, which will complicate the speed comparison. For your purposes, it may not matter, as the accelerators will very much help speed your work load along massively, for the same reason that you can edit 2 4K streams of video and output the result so easily on an iPad Pro.

I don't know how the M1 will end up comparing to an i9 until we get actual units benchmarked. I do know how well the hardware accelerators in the A12X do with video editing in the iPad Pro, and expect that there will be better than iPad video processing in the M1 Macs.

I personally expect to see that the M1 MBP has a higher (to what degree is unknown at this time) clock speed than the MBA, which is pushing up TDP on the MBP to the point where it needs active cooling to prevent throttling for longer processes. For your workload though, it may not make much of a difference if the hardware accelerators are being engaged to do the heavy lifting for video.
 
Clockspeed is kind of irrelevant though, no? As long as the performance stats are good....
That’s right. Many Android users forget this when comparing phones as well. Apple has always been about the experience. As long as it’s users, often artistic professionals, can run apps smoothly it really doesn’t matter. Both commercial videos we saw focused solely on artists, not nasa engineers.

Yes, their are fringe cases and that is why they offer an Air up to a $50k pro machine. But spec to foreign spec means nothing.
 
Does anyone know whether the new M1 chip is faster than the chip in 16" macbook pro 2.4 i9?

Thanks
According to geekbench 5, yes the entry level macbook air is faster than the top end i9 in the 16" macbook pro. Much faster in single core and also slightly faster in multicore.
 
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Well, Geekbench may show that M1 is faster with native apps, but I'd guess Rosetta 2 apps will probably run somewhat slower.

And perhaps that's why Apple is still keeping Intel Macs around. They know M1 won't be able to offer significantly faster performance with many apps that still depend on Rosetta 2. I wouldn't be surprised if these apps end up not even faster than the 4-port 13" Pro.
 
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