Does ML fix the retinabook's problems for you?

Morrius

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The tax holiday in Massachusetts this weekend has reignited my lust for a retina MBP, especially with no iMac upgrade in sight. But I would like to know how people are finding it with ML now. Does it still have problems with graphics lagging or battery life?
 

maflynn

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Mountain Lion does indeed help, however some members are still reporting some lagginess. I'm happy with the battery performance so I cannot answer one any potential battery problems.

My $.02 is get the rMBP and enjoy it.
 

Trey M

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The tax holiday in Massachusetts this weekend has reignited my lust for a retina MBP, especially with no iMac upgrade in sight. But I would like to know how people are finding it with ML now. Does it still have problems with graphics lagging or battery life?
In my experience lagging in ML has been fixed, at least in Safari. The only app that I experience lagging in now is Chrome, but it's hardly noticeable and can be fixed in a software update. Also, there's a few terminal commands you can run to fix a lot of the battery life issues. Basically, all this stuff is proven to be software issues, so it's all easily fixable. Don't let that hold you back, enjoy your rMBP.
 

AZREOSpecialist

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The tax holiday in Massachusetts this weekend has reignited my lust for a retina MBP, especially with no iMac upgrade in sight. But I would like to know how people are finding it with ML now. Does it still have problems with graphics lagging or battery life?
Absolutely NO lag, choppiness or any of the issues described ad nauseum by a handful of people. I took this video this morning, I think it's a pretty good test and doesn't show any lag, choppiness or any of the nonsense some people are talking about:

http://youtu.be/Dudx1GhHGiY

Take what people say around here with a bucket of salt. Some people have hidden agendas and axes to grind. You'll find threads about the RMBP hardware problems posted by people who have nothing factual to contribute and without any real experience with the product they are bashing. I can only speak for myself, and as you can clearly see, there are no issues. You have to wonder about people who are quick to post threads about problems when they don't even own the machine, and those who are quick to jump to conclusions without properly troubleshooting their own systems.

Mine is a 2.6/16/512 model.

I've been called names (most recently "idiotic"), accused of being a "troll" and a "fanboy" simply because I don't see any of the alleged performance issues described by some. The complaints center around two web sites - Facebook.com and theVerge.com as well as using Mission Control while switching spaces. I've done all of the above in my video with only beautiful, buttery smooth results, and all while playing three videos simultaneously - one in full-screen 1080p mode. You can't see any UI or scrolling choppiness or lag under this type of load.
 

kimovski

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I just want apple fix the black screen login after putting the password. Everytime i plug my external hdd or any usb device on it before boot up and black screen comes in. Without plugged it works fine.
Really annoying :(
 

Morrius

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For me the retina display isn't even the deal maker, its the combination of a discrete graphics card and the SSD. I tried building a similar machine from the non retinabook, and it was more expensive to do it that way.
 

mjn298

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For me the retina display isn't even the deal maker, its the combination of a discrete graphics card and the SSD. I tried building a similar machine from the non retinabook, and it was more expensive to do it that way.
Yeah I think that's a deliberate pricing structure to encourage people to go Retina.

I can't wait until SSD/IPS prices go down so I can have my dream laptop for a price I'm comfortable spending.
 

Morrius

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I've got the money for a rMBP, I'm not sure if I can justify spending $2500 when I still have a 2010 MBP that works okay and gets the job done. Sometimes the HD is a little creaky, but that's it. It's not on the verge of collapse or anything. I've been holding out for the iMac refresh, but right now is just a very good time to be buying, since I can combine tax holiday with education pricing and the back to school promotion.
 

magbarn

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It's much better than lion, but some parts of the UI are still choppy compared to my previous 2011 MBP 15. The apple store ones should be ML by now so go and take one for a test drive.
 

Dunlop122

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My Retina Pro is much better since installing ML. As others have said, Safari is much smoother and that's a big plus for me. My machine seems more stable since ML as well. Oddly, Scrolling through my music list in Itunes is not as smooth as I would expect, but it's not a huge issue for me. Office 2011 runs great if not a little blurry. I'd say go for it.
 

Wingzero

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UI is a little laggy for me, something I didn't notice in Lion.

Overall I'm happy with my RetinaBook, but the UI experience "should" be much better.
 

AZREOSpecialist

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DON'T FORGET ABOUT SPOTLIGHT INDEXING!

When your computer is new and Spotlight is indexing your hard drive, you will experience a hit in performance and may witness some stuttering, choppiness, etc. Make sure that Spotlight is not the cause of your issues.

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UI is a little laggy for me, something I didn't notice in Lion.

Overall I'm happy with my RetinaBook, but the UI experience "should" be much better.
Check my video and let me know if my machine is performing better than yours… http://youtu.be/Dudx1GhHGiY
 

stevelam

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nope. still some random lag here and there that i never experienced with my 2008 macbook which is also currently running ML.
 

striker33

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ML was a huge improvement over Lion no doubt, but some issues still exist, and all of them are simply software related. Windows 7 and 8 run beautifully on this machine, but neither are doing any of the ridiculous scaling that OS X is, so its understandable that the IGP causes some lag issues with things like GUI animations under OS X.

A couple more updates over the coming months will surely remove any underlying issues.

I just wish the hardware quality lived up to it :( Think I'll re-order with an iPad 3rd gen and the new iPhone at the end of september and pray that at least 1 of them comes in satisfactory condition.
 

retinarob

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What problems? I use Ableton and CS5.. unless the pixels sagged or melted to the bottom of the screen and I had to shake it every hour then there's nothing I can complain about.
 

stevelam

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What problems? I use Ableton and CS5.. unless the pixels sagged or melted to the bottom of the screen and I had to shake it every hour then there's nothing I can complain about.
you're using cs5 on the retina screen and you have nothing to complain about? obviously you're willing to put up with a lot then.
 

retinarob

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you're using cs5 on the retina screen and you have nothing to complain about? obviously you're willing to put up with a lot then.
I upgraded from a 2007 MBP and can appreciate the change. I really don't mind changing resolutions when I need to switch tasks. I knew I would have to for the first year or so, and I didn't want to have the next 4-5 years without a retina display. CS5 looks just find scaled, and Ableton is amazing with the extra space.

The key to survival is adaptation and versatility.
 

macuserx86

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you're using cs5 on the retina screen and you have nothing to complain about? obviously you're willing to put up with a lot then.
Does CS5 just scale interface elements or does it also scale the images you're working on in it? Pixel doubled photo editing would be pretty unbearable, but I could live with the interface looking "fuzzy" if the photo itself was displayed at native resolution.
 

stevelam

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Does CS5 just scale interface elements or does it also scale the images you're working on in it? Pixel doubled photo editing would be pretty unbearable, but I could live with the interface looking "fuzzy" if the photo itself was displayed at native resolution.
the photo is not displayed at native resolution. the viewport is also doing the pixel doubling which makes it fuzzy. until adobe adds proper support for retina display thats just how it is for now.