Does Optibay Void Warranty?

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  1. MJNBGA macrumors regular

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    It's something I've been looking in to. But does it void the warranty?

    Thanks.
     
  2. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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  3. getz76 macrumors 6502a

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    Technically, yes. However, you leave no permanent marks on your machine during installation. I have reverse-installed the OWC Data Doubler a number of times. If you need to take your machine in, just swap the optical drive back in.

    Installation is dead-simple.
     
  4. maflynn Moderator

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    Technically it does not void your warranty. The warranty states that any damage produced by work by an unauthorized agent will void the warranty for that component.

    If you install the Optibay without any damage you warranty is intact.

     
  5. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Technically, it does.
    As the Optibay does not qualify as a customer-intallable part as defined by Apple, it would void the warranty. Only memory and such "user-serviceable parts" qualify. Even with permitted modifications, any damage done by such work is not covered. See my first post.
     
  6. getz76 macrumors 6502a

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    Actually, you are correct. There was a ruling regarding use of non-manufacturer parts in automobiles not voiding warranties, I believe in benefit of State Farm.

    I would still revert to the factory setup before bringing in for service. It may save you the argument of whether or not you caused any damage (i.e. flexed logic board, shorted something, etc). It is easy enough to do.
     
  7. peapody macrumors 68040

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    I am not sure whether or not it does, but I was able to get my optical drive repaired after I swapped it back after having an optibay fail because of the sata connection.

    If in doubt, just take out the optibay and replace the optical drive.
     
  8. motoracer1486 macrumors 6502a

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    If you need service, take the optibay out. They'll never know the difference.
     
  9. Naimfan macrumors 68040

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    +1

    What GGJ writes above is correct. If you need to take a Mac in for warranty service with an Optibay conversion, Apple is not legally required to repair it. Whether damage is done during the conversion or not is irrelevant--what is relevant is that the user expressly contravened the express written warranty.
     
  10. motoracer1486 macrumors 6502a

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    Do you work for Apple or something?
     
  11. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    No need to work for Apple. The Apple Warranty and the AppleCare Protection Plan agreements are quite clear.
     
  12. Naimfan macrumors 68040

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    No, but I can read. And I have practiced as a lawyer.
     
  13. OneUp macrumors newbie

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    Does the Magnuson-Moss Act not apply to notebook computers?
     
  14. h00ligan macrumors 68030

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    Just what I was thinking.
     
  15. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    It doesn't apply to modifying a product's functionality beyond it's intended purpose. It only applies to replacing a part with the same type part from another manufacturer. It would apply, for example, to replacing the hard drive or RAM with another brand, but not to replacing the optical drive with a different type of drive.
     
  16. getz76 macrumors 6502a

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    One could argue replacing one SATA device with another does not modify the product's functionality. That's not an argument I would want to get into, though.
     
  17. squeakr macrumors 68000

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    I thought that the act allowed for modifications by the consumer/owner,but stated that the modified part is no longer covered. The remainder of the warranted parts were covered unless it was determined that the modification caused the part to fail, in which case the warranty would be null and voided. This is how it was explained to me when I replaced the exhaust, entertainment system (yes entertainment, video and the works), and suspension on my truck. The warranty would no longer cover any modified part, but the remainder of covered items would be unaffected as to warranty coverage.
     
  18. Naimfan macrumors 68040

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    Sigh . . .

    You need to read and understand the entire act. Apple has designated the warranty on Macbook Pros as "limited," and it has explicitly identified the "user-serviceable" parts in a Macbook Pro as being limited to the hard drive and the RAM. Apple also explicitly states that service or modification by non-Apple authorized persons will void the warranty. The Moss-Magnuson Act does not prohibit Apple from doing so--it requires a warrantor to explicitly state the limitations on the warranty offered.

    Hence, by removing the optical drive, which is not listed as a "user-serviceable" part, Apple may void the warranty without needing to show that the modification had any negative impact on the computer. A warranty is, in effect, a contract between you and Apple. If you do not observe the terms and conditions of the warranty, you in effect relieve Apple of its obligation to honor the warranty.

    You could make that argument. You would lose.
     
  19. DesmoPilot macrumors 65816

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    Technically it does. But if done properly, you can put the super drive back in and they won't notice.
     

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