Does OS X come with the Times New Roman font?

jamdr

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I was wondering if OS X is supposed to come with the Times New Roman font (not Times). My computer does not have it, but I was wondering if others do.
 

dotnina

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I have it, but I have MS Word, so I'm not sure if it's a font that comes with Word or with OS X.
 

jamdr

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Yeah, I see it on a friend's Mac with Office installed, but not on mine. I guess it comes from that. Would it be legal for me to copy it over (I'll probably do it anyway, but I'd like to know ;) )
 

snkTab

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jamdr said:
Yeah, I see it on a friend's Mac with Office installed, but not on mine. I guess it comes from that. Would it be legal for me to copy it over (I'll probably do it anyway, but I'd like to know ;) )
nope, because you can still buy times new roman.
 

sjpetry

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jamdr said:
Yeah, I see it on a friend's Mac with Office installed, but not on mine. I guess it comes from that. Would it be legal for me to copy it over (I'll probably do it anyway, but I'd like to know ;) )
Probably not, but its not like it's a program. ;)


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Bear

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Strangely enough, another way to get <i>Times New Roman</i> is to install Internet Explorer as part of Panther. And then before even running IE, just dump it into the trash.
 

dotdotdot

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Bear said:
Strangely enough, another way to get <i>Times New Roman</i> is to install Internet Explorer as part of Panther. And then before even running IE, just dump it into the trash.
Thats because Times New Roman is a Windows core font... (just wondering, are Apple fonts nice?)
 

cubist

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I HATE TIMES NEW ROMAN!

On Windows, I have even tried deleting the TTF file to try to eliminate the scourge of Times New Roman, but it keeps coming back! :mad: I like Century Gothic and I have it as the default font in every single place in Microsoft Office I can find to set it. But no matter what I do, Word keeps changing things back to Times New Roman! It's got to be one of the ugliest typefaces ever invented! Why does arrogant Word insist on using it?

And then to hear of someone who doesn't have it -- and wants it! Why, it's like the ancient mariner hearing of someone who yearns for a dead albatross around his neck!
 

dotdotdot

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cubist said:
On Windows, I have even tried deleting the TTF file to try to eliminate the scourge of Times New Roman, but it keeps coming back! :mad: I like Century Gothic and I have it as the default font in every single place in Microsoft Office I can find to set it. But no matter what I do, Word keeps changing things back to Times New Roman! It's got to be one of the ugliest typefaces ever invented! Why does arrogant Word insist on using it?

And then to hear of someone who doesn't have it -- and wants it! Why, it's like the ancient mariner hearing of someone who yearns for a dead albatross around his neck!
You do know Windows XP has a "font smoother" that makes all the fonts look like Apples? (key part in skinning it to look like OS X) Right click on desktop, click Properties, Appearance, Effects..., and check "Use the following method to smooth fonts..." and select "ClearType"

Times new roman smoothens out and looks quite presentable.
 

AdamZ

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So does anyone know a breakdown of which fonts Apple uses. They look pretty cool I think, many Mac related sites duplicate the look. But what is OSX main fonts?
 

GodBless

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Serif'd fonts look like crap on any screen without an insane dpi count, ClearType or no...
I agree. A font like Arial was made to be viewed on a computer screen where as Times New Roman was made to be viewed on paper. This explains why Word uses it by default. Word was made to print documents. People on this thread need to understand the difference between serif and sans serif fonts. They are two totally different things.

Link:
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/s/sans_serif.html
 

MacFan25863

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To answer the question about Apple font's, most of the current mainstream Apple stuff is done in Minion Pro (you can get it as part of Acrobat Reader for Mac, but you have to do some work to dig it out. It comes with Photoshop CS)
 

GodBless

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AdamZ said:
So does anyone know a breakdown of which fonts Apple uses. They look pretty cool I think, many Mac related sites duplicate the look. But what is OSX main fonts?
Here is a screenshot of my freeware TinkerTool Application that manges system fonts. I have all of mine set to default.
 

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snkTab

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Arial is just a sucky version of Helvetica. I mean really, overlay the two, same porportions same strokes at same positions. It's just that Arial has different gimicks on it. Arial is known because of its extreme bundling on everything, not because of it's great design.

It's not like on computer screens you can tell the difference anyway.

anyway, use helvetica fonts to attack arial fonts in this game http://www.mimeartist.com/helvetica/

Personally, I like Myriad (uber versatile in print and web), and the Lucida Family(not all of them), Minion is good for print and as a serif font, not that great for web though. Only thing that sucks is that myriad and minion are professional fonts that you have to buy, and the good lucida fonts are only on macs.
 

dotdotdot

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Times New Roman is one of those very important fonts because of its "classy business" look. My history teacher wont accept ANY papers unless they are written in Times New Roman, 12 Pt. Font. Of course, he gets pissed when my friend who doesnt HAVE times new roman (windows w/o word or anything - his PC sucks) and gets a B+ MINIMUM. Must suck for Mac users - of course, there are none in my school.
 

mkrishnan

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dotdotdot said:
Times New Roman is one of those very important fonts because of its "classy business" look. My history teacher wont accept ANY papers unless they are written in Times New Roman, 12 Pt. Font. Of course, he gets pissed when my friend who doesnt HAVE times new roman (windows w/o word or anything - his PC sucks) and gets a B+ MINIMUM. Must suck for Mac users - of course, there are none in my school.
A lot of professors do that just because they get tired of the occasional student pplaying with fonts and sizes to try to massage the apparent length of their papers...so not that Times New Roman is particularly a great thing, but because (well, apparently *almost* everyone) everyone has it, and so it takes the font/size issue out of the equation, and it's easier on the prof/instructor than counting words....
 

mkrishnan

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Back to the original question...check this out:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...f9-9b31-4cb3-a022-c9148427a8c3&displaylang=en

The download states that it is for OS 8-9, but if you download it, then you will get to font suitcase files, containing arial and TNR respectively. You can then import these into Font Book and you should be set. You can even keep them in a special collection, separate from everything else, to remember how far you've fallen. ;)
 
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