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Does Series 4 provide detailed sleep tracking?

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I just got an Ultra.
I had a Series 4 before which I am using for sleep tracking.

I have used the series 4 twice.
I have used the Ultra for sleep once.

My sleep tracking on the night of the Ultra was VERY detailed.
My sleep tracking for both nights of the Series 4 was basically solid lines. Nowhere near the detail the Ultra provides.

Does anyone know if the Series 4 is even capable of detailed sleep tracking?

If not with apple's app, will an 3rd party provide the Series 4 with detailed sleep tracking?

I assume the data that the 3rd party apps still go into the Apple Health app?

thanks. I'm confused by the results I get with the series 4.
 
I feel dumb. Series 4 was running 8,7.

THANK YOU.

I got a new phone this week a day before the Ultra and I swore I transferred it over and updated but clearly did not. Will report back after I can use it for sleep again.
 
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macsplusmacs said:
I just got an Ultra.
I had a Series 4 before which I am using for sleep tracking.

I have used the series 4 twice.
I have used the Ultra for sleep once.

My sleep tracking on the night of the Ultra was VERY detailed.
My sleep tracking for both nights of the Series 4 was basically solid lines. Nowhere near the detail the Ultra provides.

Does anyone know if the Series 4 is even capable of detailed sleep tracking?

If not with apple's app, will an 3rd party provide the Series 4 with detailed sleep tracking?

I assume the data that the 3rd party apps still go into the Apple Health app?

thanks. I'm confused by the results I get with the series 4.
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That sounds interesting. I thought watchOS 9 should include that and was the reason for me to get Ultra so that my old AW6 will replace my old AW3 as a sleep watch that does not get WatchOS 9 and does not support new sleep features in detail.

EDIT: OK, nevermind you seemed to solve the issue already. :)
 
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That sound interesting. I thought watchOS 9 should include that and was the reason for me to get Ultra so that my old AW6 will replace my old AW3 that does not get WatchOS 9 and does not support new sleep features in detail.

EDIT: OK, nevermind you seemed to solve the issue already. :)
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yah I was on 8.7 not 9. I really thought I updated it but this week and the new phone and ultra has been a bit of a blur.

I wonder if the series 4 is the last one to support Watch OS 9?
 
wore series 4 last night,

Solid line for sleep.

I woke up and it was asking for my app store password so I rebooted, going to try again soon, but it may be the case that the series 4 does not have the same "gyros" that the ultra has and can not give as detailed of a sleep pattern.

will update.
 
macsplusmacs said:
wore series 4 last night,

Solid line for sleep.

I woke up and it was asking for my app store password so I rebooted, going to try again soon, but it may be the case that the series 4 does not have the same "gyros" that the ultra has and can not give as detailed of a sleep pattern.

will update.
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Hmm, that does not sound good. I don't think App Store password would change anything if you already did have WatchOS 9 installed, it should have detailed sleep tracking built in.

Anyone with AW6 getting detailed sleep tracking in WatchOS 9? I was looking forward to use my current AW6 as sleep watch when my Ultra arrives.
 
Also may try this on the Series 4:

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  • Apple has restricted Sleep Stages for users with an Apple Watch Series 4 or above on WatchOS 9. Note that AutoSleep Sleep Analysis still works for all models of Apple Watch.
I'm not sure what the dev means by that though.

I already own it.
 
from what I am reading, it should, just not sure. maybe the watch reboot will do the trick though. will try tomorrow.
 
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macsplusmacs said:
from what I am reading, it should, just not sure. maybe the watch reboot will do the trick though. will try tomorrow.
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My Apple Watch 5 does detailed sleep tracking, I have an Ultra ordered but you know that story. Any way as long as you have a sleep schedule set it should display everything you want. There are a lot of settings to check, both on the watch itself as well as the watch App and the phone’s own settings but it all works fine on the 5.
 
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I should note. Both apple watches are connected to the same new iPhone pro max.

Will double check the settings though. thx.
 
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My Apple Watch 5 does detailed sleep tracking, I have an Ultra ordered but you know that story. Any way as long as you have a sleep schedule set it should display everything you want. There are a lot of settings to check, both on the watch itself as well as the watch App and the phone’s own settings but it all works fine on the 5.
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Thanks for confirming that. Gives me hope that it should work with my AW6 then too. BTW, you did not have any third party sleep apps installed when you tested it?
 
0906742 said:
Thanks for confirming that. Gives me hope that it should work with my AW6 then too. BTW, you did not have any third party sleep apps installed when you tested it?
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No 3rd party apps. I probably won’t keep this native app going for long. I really don’t like having something on my wrist while in bed. But I was curious about the function and will keep it going for a week and then disable it. It confused me at first because I didn’t have a schedule set and no data was recorded. Looking up articles I realized some schedule had to be set to get this going. I have also seen that if you delay getting in bed or sleeping it will automatically adjust the schedule for the next night to that later time. I assume the reverse is true, if you go to bed earlier it would adjust the time back using the same interval, 7 hours in my case, to set the wake up time.
 
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I guess the reboot worked because my series 4 is showing detailed sleep now. Just like my ultra.

I'm happy. No to determine was the data means. LOL.
 
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macsplusmacs said:
I guess the reboot worked because my series 4 is showing detailed sleep now. Just like my ultra.

I'm happy. No to determine was the data means. LOL.
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That is excellent. Thanks for confirming that. So my current AW6 will be my sleep watch when I receive my Ultra, as my original plan was.
 
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That is excellent. Thanks for confirming that. So my current AW6 will be my sleep watch when I receive my Ultra, as my original plan was.
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I will use it for next 3 nights and confirm later as well.

or maybe each night where I saw a solid band with series 4 I LITTERALLLY DID NOT MOVEE!!!!! :oops::eek:
 
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Detailed sleep pattern on the series 4 again last night!!

I think I'm done.It seems to work exactly right.

Going to demote the series 4 to sleep duty and use my Ultra for everyday and beyond.
 
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Series 4 detailed sleep tracking again!

Yah between not updating and needed a restart that seems to have fixed things.

Going to use it every night now.
 
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No 3rd party apps. I probably won’t keep this native app going for long. I really don’t like having something on my wrist while in bed. But I was curious about the function and will keep it going for a week and then disable it. It confused me at first because I didn’t have a schedule set and no data was recorded. Looking up articles I realized some schedule had to be set to get this going. I have also seen that if you delay getting in bed or sleeping it will automatically adjust the schedule for the next night to that later time. I assume the reverse is true, if you go to bed earlier it would adjust the time back using the same interval, 7 hours in my case, to set the wake up time.
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I’ve noticed if I go to bed prior to my schedule or stay in bed after my schedule, then I get a non-detailed report for the off schedule intervals. I do get sleep time credit for the times. The normal sleeping schedule shows detailed reports.

I use an AW4 as my sleep watch.
 
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