The M14 is supposed to have up to 1,200 nits of typical SDR brightness, but the Apple website says the 16 pro is only 1,000 nits, which is the same as the older displays. Did Apple not upgrade the displays?
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iPhone 16 Pro Does the 16 pro actually have the Samsung M14 OLED? Or is it the same old panel?
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C7 POWER
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I’d say Apple has the correct info on their own site, so that should mean same panel
BorisDG
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The only difference is that it goes down to 1 nit. It still can be the newer M14 material, but not pushed to the limits for energy efficiency, which is the main goal with 16 Pro from what I can see. 4+ hours with minimal battery increase it's impressive. It can't be just from the N3E node.
Yuuuki
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So as a total noob in this thematic - does that mean that battery life is actually better also because of the screen itself...?
BorisDG
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Yes. That's one of the few advantages of the newer OLED material. It's not necessary just more nits/brightness. They can pull the same amount of nits with less power/heat.
1096bimu
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OLED panels don't have fixed max brightness, a better panel simply has better endurance at higher brightness.
So for example if one panel can do 1000 nits for 200hours and end up with 95% original brightness
And another panel can do 1000 nits for 300 hours and end up with 95% original brightness
then the latter panel is better, which you could use to run it at say 1200 nits. But you could also just run it at 1000 nits for longer.
System integrator ultimately has the say on whether they want to use the better panel for more brightness, or more resistance to burn-in.
Also brightness works in logarithms, meaning 1200 nits would look almost the same as 1000 nits, you need to like double the brightness before there can be an appreciable increase in perceived brightness. But doubling the brightness would usually quarter your panel life and more than double the power consumption. So unless you're desperate, you really really do not want to run high brightness on OLED.
So for example if one panel can do 1000 nits for 200hours and end up with 95% original brightness
And another panel can do 1000 nits for 300 hours and end up with 95% original brightness
then the latter panel is better, which you could use to run it at say 1200 nits. But you could also just run it at 1000 nits for longer.
System integrator ultimately has the say on whether they want to use the better panel for more brightness, or more resistance to burn-in.
Also brightness works in logarithms, meaning 1200 nits would look almost the same as 1000 nits, you need to like double the brightness before there can be an appreciable increase in perceived brightness. But doubling the brightness would usually quarter your panel life and more than double the power consumption. So unless you're desperate, you really really do not want to run high brightness on OLED.