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PracticalMac

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If the speculated fingerprint Home button is true, IOW it is now simply another type of contact sensor, does that spell the end of the mechanical home button?

By extension, the Low Cost iPhone also do away with the mechanical Home button for a non-fingerprint seeing but still touch sensing Home button?

Discuss.
 
Pure speculation, for all we know the sensor could be integrated into the screen itself (as it was rumored).
 
I think it'll be dual function - fingerprint sensor to activate, then once unlocked it'll function as the Home button in the normal manner.

As for whether it's mechanical or not - too early to say.
 
I hope so... the actual push of the button creates problems in the long term with debris in the crevices and causing issues with responsiveness..
 
I think it'll be dual function - fingerprint sensor to activate, then once unlocked it'll function as the Home button in the normal manner.

As for whether it's mechanical or not - too early to say.

Did not say the function will go away, just the mechanical part.
 
I hope it replaces the button, its a step closer to a true edge to edge display. I do wonder where it will be on the screen and how it would distinguish a home button press from a regular tap. Unless its not actually on the screen. Damn it Apple, reveal your secrets!
 
I like physical home buttons and hope Apple doesn't remove them.

I like them too. But from Apple's point of view, in the long term, hardware failure is most likely to be in the physical buttons. Granted, I dont think thats WHY they would remove it, but its a good justification for it, device longevity.
 
There's no reason a mechanical switch can't incorporate an electronic sensor. Mechanical switches have been incorporating indicator lamps/leds for a very long time. The principle is the same.

I think Apple would prefer to stay with a mechanical home button (and power button). The system reset process requires a switch that operates regardless of the condition of the system. For example, it couldn't function like the touch display, which is very system-dependent. Further, the home button functionality benefits from being pressure-dependent, to minimize accidental triggering. That suggests something like a Hall Effect switch assembly - a mechanical pushbutton with an attached magnet that controls a solid-state switch. That is significantly more expensive than an all-mechanical switch.

Would the added durability of a solid-state switch justify the added cost? That's a matter of how often the mechanical switches fail during the warranty period (two years if the customer purchases AppleCare+), whether customer satisfaction would improve significantly, and whether the consumer would be willing to pay to have that benefit. I'm not sure the answer would be yes, though I'd be delighted if it was.
 
I hope so... the actual push of the button creates problems in the long term with debris in the crevices and causing issues with responsiveness..

The responsiveness of a messed up home button is still better than a touch sensitive button. Most of the time, they aren't missed up - which is even better.

My home buttons have been fine.
 
The responsiveness of a messed up home button is still better than a touch sensitive button. Most of the time, they aren't missed up - which is even better.

My home buttons have been fine.

If the touch sensitive button is properly done, I would have to completely disagree with you. Yes, I have handled phones with some crap touch sensitive buttons. But those that are done properly are very nice to use. The Lumia line comes to mind. All touch sensitive buttons, never a missed press, never a want for a physical button.

Also, great that you haven't had issues with your home button, but home button failure is one of the most common issues with iPhones. That's a simple fact.
 
Also, great that you haven't had issues with your home button, but home button failure is one of the most common issues with iPhones. That's a simple fact.

+1.. so common that apple added in a virtual home button with assistive touch to remedy the problem.
 
I hope they don't take away the mechanical button. I really really do hate soft buttons. I hate them for many reasons, but the biggest one that comes to mind is that you have to actually see the "button" to know where to press it. You can't just feel for the button. I know they could put a different texture there, but I have not seen that implemented well.
 
The AuthenTec "smart sensor" that Apple acquired is less than 0.5" wide in its original design, so Apple could have easily incorporated the part into a mechanical type home button.
 
I hope they don't take away the mechanical button. I really really do hate soft buttons. I hate them for many reasons, but the biggest one that comes to mind is that you have to actually see the "button" to know where to press it. You can't just feel for the button. I know they could put a different texture there, but I have not seen that implemented well.

That's a very valid reason. I am curious though, outside of maybe using Siri without looking at the screen, what other situation have you come across where you aren't looking at the front of your phone when needing to press the home button.
 
Haptic feedback and a swiping motion where YOU KNOW the virtual button is located will solve the issue of eyes free activation.
 
Citation?

I don't need one. My wife is customer service manager at Best Buy. Number one complaint with returned iPhones (outside of cracked screens). You can believe me, or not. No skin off my back.

EDIT: And a google search found me this. Not sure on the credibility though (they are selling a service after all). I am fine with my wife's data. ;)
 
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I could actually see Apple as using the fingerprint sensor as an excuse to switch to a capacitive home button. Just think about it: for regular users, if Apple had just switched to a capacitive home button then the focus would be that Apple changed something everyone was used to. But if they say "we now have a fingerprint sensor on it" then regular people will focus on the fingerprint sensor more than the loss of a mechanical home button. And for Apple it helps them not have to replace iPhones due to faulty home buttons since it'll be one less mechanical part prone to failure.
 
I hope they make the white line on the home button pulse as a notification light. That would be pretty slick.

I highly doubt they'll make it a capacitive fingerprint scanner.
 
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