Does the iPP make the MacBook redundant - if you don't necessarily need OSX?
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iPad Pro Does the iPP make the MacBook redundant?
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For me, iPad Pro is a better form factor but the MacBook Pro is far more capable.
I've been using an iPad Pro for a bit now and while I love the giant screen, way too often I'm trying to do something simple (like copy/paste or view websites) and I feel crippled by the lack of mouse.
I honestly could live with an OSX tablet with removable keyboard because, despite the eye-rolling yes men, convergence is not a bad word. Sure, hybrid machines aren't for everyone but neither are dedicated tablets or dedicated laptops. So, under some proper Apple developed changes to the OS, an OSX tablet would please more people than it would disappoint.
So to answer the question. Yes. An iPP makes the MacBook redundant because 90% of iPad tasks could easily be done on an OSX machine but the reason we're using a crippled iOS version is due to the form factor.
I've been using an iPad Pro for a bit now and while I love the giant screen, way too often I'm trying to do something simple (like copy/paste or view websites) and I feel crippled by the lack of mouse.
I honestly could live with an OSX tablet with removable keyboard because, despite the eye-rolling yes men, convergence is not a bad word. Sure, hybrid machines aren't for everyone but neither are dedicated tablets or dedicated laptops. So, under some proper Apple developed changes to the OS, an OSX tablet would please more people than it would disappoint.
So to answer the question. Yes. An iPP makes the MacBook redundant because 90% of iPad tasks could easily be done on an OSX machine but the reason we're using a crippled iOS version is due to the form factor.
Try updating the firmware on any gadget you have. Then you'll see how "redundant" your MacBook is.
I'm still waiting on my keyboard. But with the keyboard I really don't see what use the MacBook or MacBook Air would have. I guess I could still understand having the MacBook Pro if someone needs the processing power for something or as others have said need to use OS X.
Millions of laptops have already been replaced by Android Tablets and some iPads also.
People in the USA are hugely materialistic and competitive. Vain insecure and shallow they often buy products they think make them look as cool and smart as others. It's this narcissistic tendency that cause them to buy laptops they didn't need but thought they did because their friends have one.
Largely the older crowd they cling to Apples every word and buy what they're told to
People in the USA are hugely materialistic and competitive. Vain insecure and shallow they often buy products they think make them look as cool and smart as others. It's this narcissistic tendency that cause them to buy laptops they didn't need but thought they did because their friends have one.
Largely the older crowd they cling to Apples every word and buy what they're told to
Or...perhaps they actually enjoy technology and new generations of hardware.
God forbid people who work for their money get to spend it on things they enjoy...
Tell us how you really feel....are you here because you are bored, or just like hanging out in a forum full of materialistic, competitive, insecure, shallow and narcistic nobodies. Trolling are we ?
This thread is funny, because I actually bought the base rMB the other day and surprisingly really enjoy it, even more than the iPP.
The iPP seems like a behemoth in comparison, and since I don't need the ports too often, - I think the rMB is better for me.
The iPP seems like a behemoth in comparison, and since I don't need the ports too often, - I think the rMB is better for me.
Same thing I was thinking, though the wording wasn't as nice.
Sometimes I think there should also be a thumbs down 'dis-like' button. That way there would be nothing for a troll to reply back to.
Apple has a huge vested interest in force feeding iPP models on as many users as possible. Romancing them with the idea "it's the future" Translated: Apple makes far more profit on iPads.
You (used generically) cool Apple users certainly don't want to be using an "old" form factor like a laptop in the
"Post PC Era" as it's the smart contemporary people that use iPads instead.
Make no mistake, I _like_ my iPad mini 3, iPad Air, and Air 2 models. They're terrific as content _consumption_ devices.
But when it comes to getting work done, from as relaxed and basic as writing, to as complex as the Computational Biology work I do year after year, there's no substitute for a fine Apple laptop.
While I primarily use my 2015 MBPr for work when out of the lab, the new thin, light and ultra portable MacBook retina I've had for a couple of months now, continues to impress. After a couple of decades using very high quality, fast, stable and reliable MBP's I will reserve my iPads for reading, surfing, and leisure.
No chance at all that this is a subjective thing? That for some people it might actually be true that they are comfortable doing "relaxed and basic" things on a tablet rather than carrying around a laptop?
The real problem isn't that people who want or like the iPP are narcissistic or materialistic; it's that some people are trapped in paradigms that they can't or refuse to see past and will not take into account the opinions of others. Your narrow perspective limits you.
My preferences serve me very well. At no time did I suggest that others perspectives were flawed.
This is a forum of public opinion where we share thoughts, it's not that serious
I tried Quicken on the iPad to talk to my bank. Couldn't make it work.
Sigh. Guess I'm narcissistic.
Sigh. Guess I'm narcissistic.
As with any thread like this, "it depends on your usage pattern."
A few years ago, I was able to replace my laptop with an iPad. The iPad did about 99% of what I need on the go, and I could live without the last 1%. Yet, even if the iPad had existed 10 years ago, I couldn't have replaced my laptop with it at that time, simply because I *REQUIRED* "full desktop OS" features, like the ability to connect arbitrary USB devices, and a physical Ethernet port, plus some software that is still "full desktop OS only". Now, though? I don't need those type things on the go.
I would argue that for most "standard consumers," an iPad (or Android tablet,) would work perfectly fine as a primary "mobile computing device." Yet, there will always be people who need more. Just as there are people for whom the MacBook is "enough mainstream computer," while others need the full set of features in a higher-end computer, some even still needing optical media built-in.
A few years ago, I was able to replace my laptop with an iPad. The iPad did about 99% of what I need on the go, and I could live without the last 1%. Yet, even if the iPad had existed 10 years ago, I couldn't have replaced my laptop with it at that time, simply because I *REQUIRED* "full desktop OS" features, like the ability to connect arbitrary USB devices, and a physical Ethernet port, plus some software that is still "full desktop OS only". Now, though? I don't need those type things on the go.
I would argue that for most "standard consumers," an iPad (or Android tablet,) would work perfectly fine as a primary "mobile computing device." Yet, there will always be people who need more. Just as there are people for whom the MacBook is "enough mainstream computer," while others need the full set of features in a higher-end computer, some even still needing optical media built-in.
You're totally right. People only buy laptops and tablets to feel cool and snazzy. Nobody actually uses them. It must be frustrating when someone comes over to their house and they have to rush to their MacBook and pretend to use it like they actually like it. It's a lot of work....but anything in the name of looking cool!
Shame on you people not using your gadgets. You know they can run porn right? That makes them amazingly useful
I have the new MacBook as well but got that when it was released to replace a MacBook Air. I used to use the MacBook almost exclusively and my iPad mini as just a 2nd screen/portable media player.
I now am using my iPP 90%+ of the time and hardly touch my MacBook. I am not at the point of being ready to sell my laptop yet, and I wasn't planning on the pro even being close to a laptop replacement, but it's selling its self to me as it can do everything I want/need to do.
I do miss a mouse at times but am finding that to be less and less of a issue as time goes on. One thing I hated about other iPads was having multiple tabs open and them having to reload when I clicked on them. Not an issue with this beast.
I think the iPP could replace my MacBook, as long as I have an iMac at home. That is, for mobile computing, the iPP is enough, and in many ways better than a MacBook because of increased portability, instant-on, and can be charged with a lightning charger. There are some things that the iPP can't do, but those things can wait until I get home to my iMac.
Actually, come to think of it, the iPad replaced my MacBook many years ago. For the last several years, my MBA has been parked on my desk at the office, acting as a desktop, while I carried my iPad everywhere with me.
Actually, come to think of it, the iPad replaced my MacBook many years ago. For the last several years, my MBA has been parked on my desk at the office, acting as a desktop, while I carried my iPad everywhere with me.
Maybe they can co-exist together... I got one issued from work a few weeks after returning mine so this is round two for me! I am using it as a second screen in my company office with the app called Duet. Wish I had the Apple Pencil so I can use to take notes.
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At least this was the right question to ask. Comparing the iPad Pro to all Macs or PC's is futile, but the MacBook (12", single USB-C Port) is essentially the closest possible comparative device.
As an owner of both, I favor portability over raw power. I do some video editing, some photo retouching, but a LOT of pure email, PPT, Word, and other office work.
More and more I'm choosing the iPad Pro, NOT because it's easier to get things done (it's still sometimes a tad more difficult or restricted), but because it's the one device I feel services both WORK and PLEASURE in a slim, portable, long-lasteing form factor. Somehow when I sit down in front of my MacBook I don't think about playing a game, or watching a movie, or even too much social media. When I use my iPad Pro, I definitely favor consumption and web browsing, but find that once an email comes in that grabs my attention I can get everything done without switching. Meaning, I can get a message, open the PPT attachment, edit and create slides, and craft a response just as quickly on the iPad Pro, but without having to abandon the movie I was watching etc.
The MacBook is limited in input/output courtesy of it's one port (though the dongles don't bother me). The MacBook is limited in processor power. The MacBook has a different keyboard that a lot of people don't like. In those ways it's the inflection point between Tablet and Laptop.
The iPad Pro feels as fast (or faster), equally as portable, has a bigger screen and better battery life, and excels at consumption while also letting me get work done.
We spend too much time trying to DEFINE devices, with costs coming down and so much computing in our lives, it's time to embrace a multi-device, multi-screen world where you pick different tools for different times, even when capabilities are similar.
As an owner of both, I favor portability over raw power. I do some video editing, some photo retouching, but a LOT of pure email, PPT, Word, and other office work.
More and more I'm choosing the iPad Pro, NOT because it's easier to get things done (it's still sometimes a tad more difficult or restricted), but because it's the one device I feel services both WORK and PLEASURE in a slim, portable, long-lasteing form factor. Somehow when I sit down in front of my MacBook I don't think about playing a game, or watching a movie, or even too much social media. When I use my iPad Pro, I definitely favor consumption and web browsing, but find that once an email comes in that grabs my attention I can get everything done without switching. Meaning, I can get a message, open the PPT attachment, edit and create slides, and craft a response just as quickly on the iPad Pro, but without having to abandon the movie I was watching etc.
The MacBook is limited in input/output courtesy of it's one port (though the dongles don't bother me). The MacBook is limited in processor power. The MacBook has a different keyboard that a lot of people don't like. In those ways it's the inflection point between Tablet and Laptop.
The iPad Pro feels as fast (or faster), equally as portable, has a bigger screen and better battery life, and excels at consumption while also letting me get work done.
We spend too much time trying to DEFINE devices, with costs coming down and so much computing in our lives, it's time to embrace a multi-device, multi-screen world where you pick different tools for different times, even when capabilities are similar.
Have an iPad pro and a 15" rMBP ... the iPad Pro is never gonna replace my rMBP for self teaching myself 3D Modeling Rigging and Animation ... also won't replace it for programming ... but for the laid back stuff I do ... Stream Shows/Movies/Anime ... Chat with people ... and hell even social media and chatting ... I prefer the iPad Pro... feel more free without my laptop... and I actually really like the screen keyboard ... its almost as fast and accurate as my macbook pro keyboard for me
Hoping Astropad will continue to mature ... will make for an excellent cintiq replacement too then
The iPad Pro can replace my iPad Air, but not my MacBook -- even the little 12". With the MacBook I can:
- Run software development apps (XCode, IntelliJ, Eclipse)
- Test apps on a web server
- Run other server-side services
- Create Virtual Machines (VM), to run other operating systems (Windows, Linux)
- Using a VM, I can run Windows software - MS SQL Server, Visual Studio, Visio
- Perform firmware updates on various devices
- Work with a track-pad or mouse (I wish iOS supported this option!)
The iPad Pro is great for much of what I do every day, but it doesn't replace a MacBook for me. I'm on the side of hoping for a converged OS, where I can get more "regular computer" functionality on the big tablet. As long as they can implement the OS in a way that it doesn't detract from the way users can currently interact with the iPad (meaning there could still be apps that use the touch interface exactly as it is in iOS9, and ignore track-pad ability, and also apps could continue to be used in a way where the user doesn't have to know anything about the file system) then I don't see a downside to it.
- Run software development apps (XCode, IntelliJ, Eclipse)
- Test apps on a web server
- Run other server-side services
- Create Virtual Machines (VM), to run other operating systems (Windows, Linux)
- Using a VM, I can run Windows software - MS SQL Server, Visual Studio, Visio
- Perform firmware updates on various devices
- Work with a track-pad or mouse (I wish iOS supported this option!)
The iPad Pro is great for much of what I do every day, but it doesn't replace a MacBook for me. I'm on the side of hoping for a converged OS, where I can get more "regular computer" functionality on the big tablet. As long as they can implement the OS in a way that it doesn't detract from the way users can currently interact with the iPad (meaning there could still be apps that use the touch interface exactly as it is in iOS9, and ignore track-pad ability, and also apps could continue to be used in a way where the user doesn't have to know anything about the file system) then I don't see a downside to it.
Maybe they can co-exist together... I got one issued from work a few weeks after returning mine so this is round two for me! I am using it as a second screen in my company office with the app called Duet. Wish I had the Apple Pencil so I can use to take notes.
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Sexy setup! What kind of work are you in that they would issue brand new iPad pros?