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iPad Does the RAM really limit you on a daily basis?

syd430 said:
Virtually everything just said is completely incorrect, but this takes the icing on the cake:



Why even bother to post?
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How do you know that any low memory log was actually due to lack of RAM,
poor use of RAM, or not freeing it, or memory leak, without having the source
code for every app resident in the background and iOS Safari?

Every low memory crash I have witnessed was due to allocating, but not freeing RAM,
but the low memory warning is all that is logged.
 
So is the air crippled?

I find it hard to believe that apple might have overlooked something so crucial as ram right at a time when they are switching to 64bit.
Are we confident enough to say that because of this limitation, the user experience on the air and the rMini will worsen as more and more apps are rolled out in 64bit?
I hope not but reading uncle Anand's review is not very encouraging at all!
 
xArtx said:
Every low memory crash I have witnessed was due to allocating, but not freeing RAM,
but the low memory warning is all that is logged.
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Which would happen more frequently with lower RAM, as RAM is being freed/allocated on a more constant basis, increasing the memory pressure.

The poster I quoted also said that the Air doesn't even need 0.5 GB of RAM for most people, and that tab refreshing in Safari has nothing to do with memory.
 
Why would anyone care how much RAM it's got as long as it works?

Unless your a developer your not going to be noticing any difference.
 
I like the iPad. My only beef with it is the overly small text on some menu screens which is unfriendly to those with less than ideal eyesight.

On the issue of 64 bit and RAM - yes, it would be great if there was more and it would also be great if the iPad was a good multi-tasker. - The iPad is neither but it is what it is and does it reasonably well even if it is missing the most obvious item - a flash card slot.

I will be checking out the Mini retina when it is out. If it doesn't seem to knock my socks off I'll do what others have been doing and look to another tablet maker.
 
bobbba said:
Why would anyone care how much RAM it's got as long as it works?

Unless your a developer your not going to be noticing any difference.
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I think you need to reread what I wrote. As more apps switch to 64bit, is the limited ram going to start causing troubles?
 
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i've yet to come across any app that won't work on the ipad 2 so unless apple somehow magically upgraded the ram in that then i don't see it running out anytime soon.

Apple has always had the ability to squeeze every last bit out of their hardware, just look at how the A7 has done against the competition.
 
prism said:
I find it hard to believe that apple might have overlooked something so crucial as ram right at a time when they are switching to 64bit.
Are we confident enough to say that because of this limitation, the user experience on the air and the rMini will worsen as more and more apps are rolled out in 64bit?
I hope not but reading uncle Anand's review is not very encouraging at all!
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As you mentioned, Anand wrote a bit about this specific issue in his Air review. That's probably the best answer your ever going to get without trying it for yourself. The unknowledgeable armchair experts on this forum are not going to give a better answer than was already written by Anand. You're just going to get highly biased opinions based on predisposed beliefs.

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bobbba said:
Why would anyone care how much RAM it's got as long as it works?

Unless your a developer your not going to be noticing any difference.
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I'm not sure why you're posting in this thread when you clearly have no idea what's being discussed. :confused:
 
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Whats with all the complaints. U guys should just do what you should.

Wait a year for Ipad Air 2 with 2gb ram. Apple will discontinue this one in a year after exp. problems with low ram. U are lucky they might just roll out a new one in 6 months like what they did with the 3.
 
racoonboy said:
Whats with all the complaints. U guys should just do what you should.

Wait a year for Ipad Air 2 with 2gb ram. Apple will discontinue this one in a year after exp. problems with low ram. U are lucky they might just roll out a new one in 6 months like what they did with the 3.
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Ah ok I see, we should all just return our iPad Air's which we just bought and wait for next years model and not post anything about this issue on a Apple discussion forum. Got it.
 
Well the 0.5 Gb of RAM, hmm.
Every specification of every iOS device occurs to me to have been driven
by the desire to improve display resolution, and nothing else.
Particularly with regard to transitioning to their Retina displays.



syd430 said:
Which would happen more frequently with lower RAM, as RAM is being freed/allocated on a more constant basis, increasing the memory pressure.

The poster I quoted also said that the Air doesn't even need 0.5 GB of RAM for most people, and that tab refreshing in Safari has nothing to do with memory.
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Davidkoh said:
I dont think the crashes are due to the ram. I think that is an iOS 7 issue. My old iPad 4 went from safari crashing once a month to 5 crashes a day just by installing iOS 7. Same goes for some other apps. I only have 2 low memory warnings in the logs that happened the first 2 days i had the Air.
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Saying its an "iOS7" issue doesn't necessarily mean its not due to RAM. It could simply be that iOS7 is a memory hog.
 
Man, you guys create these dealbreakers. I use an original Mini with 512 MB of RAM and my iPhone 5 with 1 GB, and I absolutely never notice a difference between the two or feel annoyed by either. Do you all open up 5 browser tabs and flip constantly between them or something? I just don't see how you can make this out to be an egregious limitation.
 
zbarvian said:
Man, you guys create these dealbreakers. I use an original Mini with 512 MB of RAM and my iPhone 5 with 1 GB, and I absolutely never notice a difference between the two or feel annoyed by it. Do you all open up 5 browser tabs and flip constantly between them or something? I just don't see how you can make this out to be a cataclysmic limitation.
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Are you running iOS 7 on those? The 5S and iPad Air have less RAM that before. 64bit takes of around 30% as well as the DDR3 RAM has 15-20Mb less that before.
 
MartinAppleGuy said:
Are you running iOS 7 on those? The 5S and iPad Air have less RAM that before. 64bit takes of around 30% as well as the DDR3 RAM has 15-20Mb less that before.
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Yes, both. And no, the 5S and Air both have the same 1 GB. Do you even know what you're talking about or are you just parroting the claim made by others in here? I don't believe 64 bit iOS apps consume 30% more RAM, that's outrageous. Even still, you fail to mention how it is wrecking your experience with the device.
 
zbarvian said:
Do you even know what you're talking about or are you just parroting the claim made by others in here? I don't believe 64 bit iOS apps consume 30% more RAM, that's outrageous.
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Are you sure you know what you're talking about? The people mentioning the 30% rise in RAM usage are citing a well known hardware expert (Anand Lal Shimpi).
 
syd430 said:
Ah ok I see, we should all just return our iPad Air's which we just bought and wait for next years model and not post anything about this issue on a Apple discussion forum. Got it.
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The problem is that it is done. Apple is not going to recall and add more RAM to the Air. It is what it is and for 99% of the users the 1GB of RAM is enough.

One day when you are out on your own you will find that are far bigger things to worry about!
 
I think it does, for those of you said it didn't, wait until the release of the next iPad or pro version and I guarantee you will regret. Ram is the biggest bottleneck of the air, and this is another iPad 3 where hardware can not keep up with the new features. Having said that, apple devices retain its value, so you may sell it with merely of 20% loss!

But if you already own an iPad 4 or 3, hold off and buy the next iPad and I guarantee you won't regret!
 
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I am just looking at your posting. My eyes are big. It is hard to believe, that someone is spreading such stuff. Sorry.

prism said:
I find it hard to believe that apple might have overlooked something so crucial as ram right at a time when they are switching to 64bit.
Are we confident enough to say that because of this limitation, the user experience on the air and the rMini will worsen as more and more apps are rolled out in 64bit?
I hope not but reading uncle Anand's review is not very encouraging at all!
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Tysknaden said:
I am just looking at your posting. My eyes are big. It is hard to believe, that someone is spreading such stuff. Sorry.
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I understand there are some iPad Air owners just can't take the fact. Ipad 3 is the best example.
 
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