Does the solar watch face reflect the sun's path in the arctic?

warpling

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I'm curious if anyone way up north or south has seen how the solar watch face responds to days where the sun never/barely peeks above the horizon or never dips below it. Is it always a nice sine wave or does it flatten out accurately? :)
 

Night Spring

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Not sure, but guessing you might change the date and time setting custom location under General Settings on your iPhone.
Ok, I set the iPhone to Palmer Station in Antartica. The time on my watch changed to match the time at Palmer, but no change in the Solar face graphic. Interesting enough, changing the date/time in this way causes the sunset/sunrise times to disappear. Hmmmm
 

iConnected

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Waits to hear that someone has emailed Tim Cook, complaining that the wave shape doesn't vary based upon location... ;)
 

Night Spring

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Waits to hear that someone has emailed Tim Cook, complaining that the wave shape doesn't vary based upon location... ;)
To be honest, I'm not too bothered that the graphics don't change. However, I'd be interested to know how it handles the position of the sun if you actually wore the watch inside the Arctic circle. I was looking up the sunrise/sunset times in Antartica, and the morning and evening twilight times seem to overlap. So how would that be handled on the watch?
 

Honey Badger

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To be honest, I'm not too bothered that the graphics don't change. However, I'd be interested to know how it handles the position of the sun if you actually wore the watch inside the Arctic circle. I was looking up the sunrise/sunset times in Antartica, and the morning and evening twilight times seem to overlap. So how would that be handled on the watch?
I think you can use the digital crown to go back and forth in time on the solar path and see the twilight labels...did you try that to see what it does?
 

Night Spring

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I think you can use the digital crown to go back and forth in time on the solar path and see the twilight labels...did you try that to see what it does?
As I said in an earlier post, just changing the date/time makes the sunset/sunrise info disappear. So no scrolling back and forth along the solar path. I don't know how to get that back without actually going to Antartica.
 

Honey Badger

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As I said in an earlier post, just changing the date/time makes the sunset/sunrise info disappear. So no scrolling back and forth along the solar path. I don't know how to get that back without actually going to Antartica.
Ah, I see....well, book your flight! lol, jk
 

Night Spring

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Ah, I see....well, book your flight! lol, jk
Ha. It would be quite the experience to go there. Weather app actually has Antartica as a location. It says the current temp is -50c. What the heck is that like????

Also, if anyone knows how to get the solar face to work with a location other than my current location, I'd love to know. Pretty neat if I could glance at my watch and see that it's sunset in Meobourne or wherever.
 

Honey Badger

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Ha. It would be quite the experience to go there. Weather app actually has Antartica as a location. It says the current temp is -50c. What the heck is that like????

Also, if anyone knows how to get the solar face to work with a location other than my current location, I'd love to know. Pretty neat if I could glance at my watch and see that it's sunset in Meobourne or wherever.
Yes, it sounds like a good candidate for a future iteration of watchOS and the world clock or a 3rd party watch face.

As far as what -50c is like, check this out:
 

warpling

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Oct 2, 2008
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As a concrete example, I would expect somewhere like Kiruna, Sweden to look something like this right now (there is no sunrise or set today).

Here's a site that shows the solar path accurately.
 

warpling

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Oct 2, 2008
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Better question! Does the sun run backwards in the southern hemisphere? (anyone south of 0˚ on here?)
This is not to say the sun moves from West to East in the southern hemisphere, a typical sun chart like the solar watch face is modeled after would show the sun moving from right to left. I wonder if apple "corrected" for that?
 

Night Spring

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Better question! Does the sun run backwards in the southern hemisphere? (anyone south of 0˚ on here?)
This is not to say the sun moves from West to East in the southern hemisphere, a typical sun chart like the solar watch face is modeled after would show the sun moving from right to left. I wonder if apple "corrected" for that?
I thought the solar face showed the sun’s position relative to the horizon -- is that what a sun chart does?
 

maclemat

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Ok, I set the iPhone to Palmer Station in Antartica. The time on my watch changed to match the time at Palmer, but no change in the Solar face graphic. Interesting enough, changing the date/time in this way causes the sunset/sunrise times to disappear. Hmmmm
Because at this time of year it is light 24/7 in the north pole, and dark 24/7 in the antarctic
 

Mac 128

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Ok, I set the iPhone to Palmer Station in Antartica. The time on my watch changed to match the time at Palmer, but no change in the Solar face graphic. Interesting enough, changing the date/time in this way causes the sunset/sunrise times to disappear. Hmmmm
Palmer is out on the Peninsula, so it it's a little different. McMurdo Station, which I have set my iPhone and iPad to, exhibits the same behavior. There is no sunset/sunrise in the Winter and Summer as it is light and dark 24/7 respectively, yet the clock still reflects dark/light seemingly arbitrarily. Since the watch incorporates sunrise/sunset I'm surprised they have not fixed the clock to show the correct lighting scheme, even if there's no sunrise or sunset to report.
 

dictoresno

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set it to reykjavik iceland, theres only a little over 2 hours of "sunset" there in the summer from midnight to about 3am. see what happens. how do you even this? change it on your phone?
 

Night Spring

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set it to reykjavik iceland, theres only a little over 2 hours of "sunset" there in the summer from midnight to about 3am. see what happens. how do you even this? change it on your phone?
On iPhone, Settings > General > Date & Time, turn Set Automatically off, then pick a place.

Will try Reykjavik now.