Does this App go against copyright laws?

Discussion in 'iPad Apps' started by cfs123, Aug 15, 2010.

  1. cfs123 macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2010
    There is an app in the app store that allows one to download newly released DVD movies. It even explains this in the app description.

    It just seems odd to me that this exists. I guess my question is, Did Apple let one slip through the cracks or is this legit?

    Anyone anything about copyright laws?
  2. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2010
    I use this forum a lot to help me with issues I have with my Apple stuff that I can't figure out on my own. That being said, since it is against MacRumors rules to discuss how to access digital material that is illegal so I prefer not to take the chance and open up a can of worms by throwing the name out into the open which would potentially lead to countless numbers of people downloading illegally, if it is fact illegal, all because I was curious. Hope this makes sense.

    However, if you know about copyright and may have an answer I will be more than happy to pm you.

    Only the talented can write quick threads while also expressing the tone they want. I am not one of them but the tone to my writing is sincere so please don't take this as me being an ass.
  3. wackymacky macrumors 65832



    I think you are being a little paranoid my friend.

    I'm sure if I say that "I think that it is morally and legally dubious they way that HandBrake operates by using the libraries from VLC media player", I doubt I would be banned.

    I am neither condoning pirating (which I don't), nor describing how it can be done.
  4. annk Administrator


    Staff Member

    Apr 18, 2004
    Somewhere over the rainbow
    I think it's ok to post the name of the app, since it's in the app store. Your question is about copyright issues, so that's fine. :)
  5. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2010
    The apps name is W.TV HD. It's in Chinese but navigation is easy to menuver through. The description is in English.

    By the way, not paranoid, you reasoning about HB makes perfect sense. Hence, the more input one has from other parties, the better one can assess their own thinking and modify their thought process. So thanks for helping with that.
  6. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2010
  7. arctic macrumors 6502a


    Jun 18, 2008

    This is just a bunch of Chinese TV channels.
  8. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2010
    Look more closely. If you are looking at the iPad version the bottom will display four icons. One of them reads DVD. If you click it you can probably figure out the rest.
  9. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    Hmmmm, it does look mighty suspicious. On the other hand, this is China -- who knows what their laws are concerning this stuff?
  10. doodude macrumors regular


    Mar 17, 2009
    pssst, look behind you...
    There are far easier ways to download newly released DVD movies than using your iPad & some Chinese app.

    Having said that, it seems neither are, by definition, legal.
  11. braddick macrumors 68040


    Jun 28, 2009
    Encinitas, CA
  12. dZp macrumors 6502a


    Mar 29, 2006
    There's this thing called google. It's like magic!
  13. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2010
    1. Maybe there are but that's not the point.

    2. Someone is on vacation and have their iPad, all I need to do is click this app
    And download- no effort involved there.

    3. It maybe a Chinese app but the letters DVD and the movie titles, and the word download, and the actual movies are in English.
  14. whocaresit macrumors 6502a

    Jul 18, 2010
  15. cfs macrumors 6502a

    Feb 8, 2008

    I already did in an above post. It is titled W.TV HD. :)
  16. cfs macrumors 6502a

    Feb 8, 2008
    maybe the laws are different, but then wouldn't everybody just find a "friend" in China and do this sort of thing.
  17. wackymacky macrumors 65832


    Well I don't know if any one has tried it, so I though I'd give it a go.

    I didn't download a movie (becasue it is a slooooooowwww server).

    A 20 min TV episode took 15 min to download (on my home wifi, which I can download a iTunes 2h movie in <30) and the quality i was pretty poor.

    I guess you get what you pay for.
  18. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2010
    I tried it out as well. As you mentioned, the download time is crazy long. It took 2.5 hours to download a 2 hour movie. The quality was average. Without a doubt watchable. In addition, one must be connected to a network to watch the downloaded movies. It is kind of like a Netflix que for those in the US.

    Regardless, of this, it still begs the question, does this app violate copyright laws. Because reality is that someone could download a movie per night while sleeping and have a unlimited amount of movies to watch for free.
  19. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2010
    Thanks for the info about the company.

    Do you think this violates copyright laws or would this be similar to ABC video for the US. I am just really curious and very confused.
  20. northernclimate macrumors newbie

    Aug 18, 2010
    #22 Hd

    CFS123, the streaming of TV function is probably similar to the ABC player but as we can't use this app here in Canada I personally can't make the comparison. Do you know if ABC (or any others) download directly to the ABC app as opposed to the iPad's video library and once downloaded require a live mobile connection for playback? If the video can't be played in an offline mode then technically has it been downloaded? I suspect that this is a beta app being tested in a live enviroment and that Apple is in agreement with the provision of these videos as a preliminary part of a larger deal currently being inked. The extreme slowness of the download (internationally anyways, I'm on high speed), the mediocre quality, the subtitles and the app's lack of visibility is probably meant to thwart those that are currently looking for a free ride. Looks like China Unicom will provide the network infrastructure but the retail of mobile devices and the media distribution will be through a licensed agreement with Apple. When you think about it, the requirement of being online in order to view a video is similar to the renting of a video on iTunes. Both situations are temporary as you aren't gaining ownership.
  21. cfs123 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jul 17, 2010
    ABC does not save to iPad. One must have a connection. However, something maybe a bit more similar to the app in question is the streaming of movies through Netflix.

    Not sure if Netflix is only US but I think it is so I will explain. Netflix is a paid for movie subscription. A netflix member can get DVD's in the mail as well as stream movies so long as they have a live connection.

    I see your point above and it seems very logical...and by the way thanks for the thorough post. However, is this only OK since it is the Chinese media giant. I mean, if one of us for example made an app like this it would pulled. Why wouldn't you tube do it then?

    Maybe I am missing something though cause I still can't grasp the legitness of the app
  22. northernclimate macrumors newbie

    Aug 18, 2010
    #24 HD

    I would agree that it seems unfair, but maybe property ownership is a double edged sword that gives us a freedom that the Chinese don't have. too deep... my guess is that either Apple is in agreement to this as they: legally own the distribution and could provide the videos as free samples if they wanted, have the studios agreement, are turning a blind eye given the politics of China (similar to RIM's pending deals with India, Saudi Arabia?) or are allowing it on a test basis only.
    This link might be referring to hd when they mention a live-video function for iPad testing.
  23. ashVID macrumors regular

    Jun 30, 2007
    Painfully slow and terrible bootlegs, immediately uninstalled, don't waste your time!

    ash =o)

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