Does UPS know it's an iPhone in the box?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by LoganT, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. LoganT macrumors 68020

    Jan 9, 2007
    I've been thinking about pre-signing for the iPhone, and I'm not really worried about it getting stolen off my porch. The only thing I'm worried about is the UPS man stealing it. What's the risk of the UPS driver stealing it?
  2. Frasern1 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 10, 2011
    North Carolina
    Slim to none.
  3. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    Of course they know, millions of these things are flooding the carriers. Theft happens but its a rare occurrence. I'd not worry too much about it, however I don't presign/waive the signature required because that increases the risk.
  4. jackpollard macrumors newbie

    Jun 14, 2010
    In a word -- Yes, it shows Apple on the outside carton.

    The box's have always shown Apple as the sender. If the UPS guy is looking for an iPhone and is gonna steal it, he will just bypass your house, say you signed for it and bam. So, if your in a safe neighborhood, don't let pre-signing stop you from going out. I see where he sees a pre-sign and then just pockets it. I would figure that again, if the UPS person is gonna steal it, he will never even hit your house.
  5. Jimbo47 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 21, 2010
    Unless they open the box, they don't know for sure. The DIAD they use to have you sign on, scan packages for tracking, etc does tell them where the package has been and where it was shipped from, but most products are shipped from China (whether its an Apple product or not) so they really don't know for certain.
  6. mikethebigo macrumors 68000

    May 25, 2009
    I'd say the risk of the UPS driver stealing it is quite low.
  7. DeusInvictus7 macrumors 68020

    Aug 13, 2008
    Kitchener, Ontario
    It was the same with FedEx. When I ordered my iMac, the FedEx guy said, "I have an Apple computer here for ya" when he delivered it. The label on the box will say who it's from.
  8. fryday444 macrumors member

    Sep 15, 2011
    Sure about that? My MacBook Pro came in a nondescript box...
  9. LoganT thread starter macrumors 68020

    Jan 9, 2007
    Call me paranoid, but I think I'll just sign it when he gets here.
  10. rkahl macrumors 65816

    Jul 29, 2010
    Hmmm... a good job in this poor economy -or- the risk of losing job and getting charged for theft... that's a tough choice.
  11. LoganT thread starter macrumors 68020

    Jan 9, 2007
    People who steal things don't usually think in logical terms like that.
  12. mrxak macrumors 68000

    Apr 16, 2004
    Drifting through space in a broken escape pod
    There's a million of these things shipping all at the exact same time. Yeah, its pretty obvious what's in the box, even without the shipper right on the label.

    You shouldn't be worried about the delivery guy stealing yours, but you should be worried about the guy following the truck in his car and picking it up off your front step once the UPS truck is out of sight.
  13. ThereGoesJB macrumors regular

    Sep 29, 2010
    It actually can be a very realistic concern, my brother used to work for UPS and they def know the boxes for high traffic items (broken/fixed XBOXs were a big one at the time).
    He also used to tell me about other employees stealing things out of packages.

    almost all of those stories came from cases of them having to repackage items though, which the iphones wont deal with and obviously prob 99% of UPS employees are not scumbags like them.
  14. JRoDDz macrumors 68000


    Jul 2, 2009
    The UPS driver has better things to do with his time than stealing packages. It's called a job and responsibility. They get paid well and are not going to jeopardize their jobs for a lousy 200$ phone.
  15. LoganT thread starter macrumors 68020

    Jan 9, 2007
    It's actually a 400 dollar on contract, 850 dollar off contract phone.

    But yeah, I see your point.
  16. steadysignal macrumors 6502a


    Dec 21, 2010
    well said. UPS takes that kind of crap very seriously.
  17. LizKat macrumors 601


    Aug 5, 2004
    Catskill Mountains
    Any UPS or FedEx employee who's making deliveries today and who does not understand what's in all thoses flippin' little boxes could never have got the job in the first place. Get a grip! Anyway, the couriers are not going to steal them. They are people like you and me, holding a job to put food on table, roof over head. As the old saying goes, you don't poop where you eat.

    Your concern if you pre-sign is this: who sees the deliveries? Who heard you talking about getting an Apple launch item via pre-order? Who knows the neighborhood and chance of getting caught trying to lift the thing after the FedEx or UPS guy leaves it?

    Do you want the hassle of trying to disavow the fine print of a pre-signed release if something goes amiss? Pre signing is saying OK the guy can leave it and if he says he did and if it's not there when I come home, then it's MY problem. End of discussion. Perhaps you will pre-sign because you are among those who think that fine print applies to other people. Good luck in school of hard knocks.

    I don't pre-sign for any expensive gear. In the past I have pre-signed for stuff like an Applecare box or a cable or some separately shipped little item like that. Apple finally wised up and often uses the post office for those little items now, thank goodness. At least that way you know where they are and you just go get them when you get a chance.
  18. LoganT thread starter macrumors 68020

    Jan 9, 2007
    I'm not saying UPS steals packages. I'm just paranoid. I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
  19. Sir Ruben macrumors 65816

    Sir Ruben

    Jul 3, 2010
    Funny UPS story:

    The UPS guy arrived with my phone this morning and said "this is an iPhone right?" I said "yeah why?" to which he replied "is there a special offer on for them at the moment or something because thats all ive got on the van, its full of them!!!"

    I educated him about it being a new iPhone and he was like "Ahhhhhhhh!" :D
  20. ZBoater macrumors G3


    Jul 2, 2007
    Sunny Florida
    This is proof that the real world is slightly larger than just Apple stuff... :rolleyes:
  21. LoganT thread starter macrumors 68020

    Jan 9, 2007
  22. kbear macrumors newbie

    Oct 14, 2011
    They definitely know. I went to pick mine up at UPS this morning and the gentleman's first words to me were, "got the new iphone, eh?" The box is about the size of an iphone and the apple packing slip is attached to the back. If they attempt to deliver today and you miss it, just check online and then call them to say you want "will call." They'll call you when the truck is back at the local center and you can pick it up. Keep in mind this may be after 9pm tonight.
  23. LoganT thread starter macrumors 68020

    Jan 9, 2007
    Thanks for the clarification.

    Are you saying the UPS driver would just forge my name?
  24. Netherscourge, Oct 14, 2011
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2011

    Netherscourge macrumors 6502

    Oct 11, 2011
    A stolen iPhone is very hard to get away with.

    First of all, these iPhones all have several serial numbers associated with them - internally. When you get a confirmation e-mail about your order, you should see a list of codes and numbers.

    Those numbers uniquely ID your phone and are tagged to you name the day your order gets processed.

    If you report it stolen and someone tries to use it online wither by WIFI or it with a Cellular carrier, the phone will immediately send a location report to Apple and probably whatever carrier the phone is locked to also.

    At that point, whoever is using your phone is carrying around a semi-accurate beacon that can be tracked either by GPS or by triangulation using various pinging methods.

    Then the police take over...

    Remember the iPhone prototype that was "lost" at that bar a couple months ago? They tracked the phone to an apartment building and began a search. They KNOW who has it, they just have it hidden. Apple even offered the accused a no-questions-asked deal. The Police are still working the case also.

    If whoever has the phone turns on the WIFI or cellular on it again, they'll get nabbed.

    So, if someone steals your iPhone, they won't be able to actually use it without giving away their location.
  25. LoganT thread starter macrumors 68020

    Jan 9, 2007
    Well I just got my package. So I guess this can go into the wasteland.

    And yes he said "I was the first to get one of these today"

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