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Since forever I have had to open the mail app for it to download new emails. Only then the Mail icon would update with a count showing how many new emails there are. It never automatically pulled down new mail or updated the icon unless I opened the app.

Does Yosemite pull down new emails and update the Mail icon without user intervention?
 
Since forever I have had to open the mail app for it to download new emails. Only then the Mail icon would update with a count showing how many new emails there are. It never automatically pulled down new mail or updated the icon unless I opened the app.

Does Yosemite pull down new emails and update the Mail icon without user intervention?

Actually I have this on iOS 8 (yes, Push is enabled). On Yosemite it is now working fine
 
Does Yosemite fix the Mail push notification and icon problem?

Since forever I have had to open the mail app for it to download new emails. Only then the Mail icon would update with a count showing how many new emails there are. It never automatically pulled down new mail or updated the icon unless I opened the app.



Does Yosemite pull down new emails and update the Mail icon without user intervention?


The mail app needs to me running for mail to come in and it's still that way in Yosemite. I start it automatically at log in and leave it running at all times.
 
That's a major disappointment. I was hoping they fixed that. Anyone else know the trick to make this work correctly?
 
This is the way it has always worked. Why do you think this is a problem that needs to be fixed?

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It makes zero sense to me to have to open the app to know if I have new mail. I should be notified just like it works in iOS.
 
The way Apple would fix this is to start Mail in the background so your icon gets updated. You can do this yourself (System Preferences/Users & Groups/Login Items). I do not know why you would wait for Apple to do it.

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The licensing of push notifications is different between mobile and desktop clients. I believe in most cases it's free for mobile devices and it's why iOS does excellent push notifications from various email sources.

Push notifications to a desktop are sometimes not allowed at all by certain services and if they are, require costly licensing.

Apple could implement a daemon on OSX that performed pull email retrieval but it's just as easy for OSX users to start the mail client hidden on login.


PS) Microsoft's activesync is the standard for hotmail.com, outlook.com push notifications and even google licensed it for gmail at one time. It's what I'm basing my comments on.
 
Actually my push notifications are fine on OSX Yosemite but are broken on iOS since iOS 7. Could be because I have background services disabled to save battery (and this was introduced in iOS 7). I preferred the old system.
 
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