If Apple release an Android app for iBook yes, you can
Exactly the same. By the way, Google ebooks can be read on other devices that are not an Android device
Wrong analogy
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If Apple release an Android app for iBook yes, you can
Exactly the same. By the way, Google ebooks can be read on other devices that are not an Android device
Wrong analogy
There are many examples. One I can think off, I can buy movie tickets for any theather in my are using their apps in the App store. Tickets are bought using a normal credit card as not as an in app purchase. If this is allowed then amazon should be allowed too.
Apple's piece of the action.
I think I see the distinction. If the item you're buying on your iDevice will be consumed on your iDevice, then Apple wants their 30% cut.
If I buy an ebook from the Amazon app on my iPad, the odds are I plan to consume the book on my iPad, Apple wants 30%.
If I buy a toaster from the Amazon app on my iPad, I can't use the toaster on my iPad, and Apple doesn't make toasters so nothing for Apple.
See, simple.
Now, if I buy an iPad case from Amazon, Apple won't get it's 30% and I can use that case for my iPad! Even worse, Apple does sell cases! Something obviously must be done about this!?
I think I see the distinction. If the item you're buying on your iDevice will be consumed on your iDevice, then Apple wants their 30% cut.
If I buy an ebook from the Amazon app on my iPad, the odds are I plan to consume the book on my iPad, Apple wants 30%.
If I buy a toaster from the Amazon app on my iPad, I can't use the toaster on my iPad, and Apple doesn't make toasters so nothing for Apple.
See, simple.
Now, if I buy an iPad case from Amazon, Apple won't get it's 30% and I can use that case for my iPad! Even worse, Apple does sell cases! Something obviously must be done about this!?
If apple doesn't take 30% of IAP, then developers would have an easy way around paying apple. Just have free apps with IAP. Boom.. 30% more profit for the developer and apple gets zero.
This ones a tricky one to me.
While i don't agree in this methodology of business practice and believe it to be unethical. It in itself isn't wrong. Apple isn't a monopoly of a vendor for hardware/software. if you dont want this type of closed ecosystem, you are free to go to a competitor, or start with a competitor.
The same thing from the Amazon side happens too. You can't buy a book through Amazon and just read it on any device or any software you want. You're supposed to be only using Amazon software / hardware. You can't just go buy ebooks from retailer B on your kindle. (yes, I know there are wayst rhough sideloading, the same applies with apple).
this is normal, everyday business And all the ebook companies try and lock you into their ecosystem. Amazon, Kobo, B&N and Apple are all guilty of trying this and locking the competitor out of their own devices.
Here's the thing: Apple is given all this praise, but without Microsoft money in the 90's, Apple would have been out of business.
Apple doesn't let anyone else sell iBooks from Amazon. Because of that, your point doesn't matter.
Can you imagine Walmart being forced by the DOJ to carry Target-brand items? Makes no sense, just as Amazon isn't going to let Google/Apple anyone else sell ebooks on their Kindles.
Let's not forget that you still can't even read epub format on Kindles! Talk about the DOJ barking up the wrong tree.
They are free to make that rule if they want to. Or they would be free if they weren't already convicted of abusing a monopoly in the desktop OS market. Apple certainly doesn't have any such monopolies.
Because Apple's fee is not a cut for the sake of cut, it is to invest in their servers, bandwidth, credit card processing, etc. As others state, if this is removed from IAPs, then every app would be free and use IAPs exclusively.
See above.
You honestly think that's how it would go?
That every app would go free with IAP?
And you honestly think even that excuses Apple getting money for doing nothing?
Apart of the forced credit card processing, nothing is stored or distributed by Apple in the case of Amazon,. B&N, Google, Kobo, etc
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Their servers don't host the IAP. It doesn't take extra bandwidth.
And no, all apps wouldn't suddenly be free with IAP if it was lifted.
you're forgetting Apples 40-45% profit margin
thats a cost in itself isnt it?
To be less sarcastic about it. Apple treats their profit margin as a "requirement" of doing business. They didn't step into the ebook market and run with existing expected profit margins in the industry. They took their "30%" or whatever, and said "we want ebook prices to automatically reflect this profit margin". it was a fixed percent of profit that they padded into the price no matter what.
Because of this 30% charge, it is anti-competitive. Forcing 30% charge on a fixed price item because of the price fixing meant, that if Amazon wants to sell their item on an iDevice, they themselves either have to take 30% less revenue (so apple can have theirs) or raise their prices. This forces companies to either take losses, or be completely uncompetitive.
And because of all the additional price fixing that has been going on, with the Publishers fixing prices, it meant that with the end price fixed, the competition had to lose revenue to sell their books on an iDevice, where Apple could sell their own ibooks without the additional 30% fee
Are you comparing a tablet with a e-ink reader that doesn't have any application?
By the way, Amazon Appstore for the Kindle Fire allows other vendors like Kobo and they can buy from within the app
I didn't knew that you have to support some format in your device.
Sometimes I wonder why people bother.
This is Macrumors, where Apple is right and here is a bad reason or analogy to prove it!
Where are people coming from that they think Apple is doing NOTHING?
I guess Sears is doing 'nothing' by selling clothes. Best Buy is doing 'nothing' by selling DVDs. Each of them take MORE than 30% on average.
think about it
Thats like allowing Burger King inside McDonalds to sell Whoppers? Then punishing McDonalds for saying well ok but you have to follow these rules. lol
Thats like allowing Burger King inside McDonalds to sell Whoppers? Then punishing McDonalds for saying well ok but you have to follow these rules. lol
I didn't knew that Apple stores Amazon ebooks on their servers and they publicize or distribute it. Can you point when I can confirm it?
Thats like allowing Burger King inside McDonalds to sell Whoppers? Then punishing McDonalds for saying well ok but you have to follow these rules. lol
Another one that doesn't know how IAP works.
Well this is pretty obvious. If i use safari on my iOS device and go to amazon's website and order any thing apple does not take a 30% cut (of any purchase).
even better if use amazon's app and order a toaster apple does not take a 30% cut. They only do this for amazons digital versions of books, magazines, and music. physical goods they do not take 30% of. Of course if they wanted to apple could make a rule and force a 30% cut on any purchase through an iOS app but they do not (would be ridiculous backlash)