DoJ Discovers 'Possible Method' for Unlocking iPhone, Asks Court to Delay Tuesday Hearing With Apple [Update: Postponed]

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    The United States Justice Department today asked the court overseeing its ongoing iPhone unlocking battle with Apple to postpone a hearing scheduled to take place on Tuesday, March 22, reports Politico. The DoJ says new leads have been discovered that could provide it with a way to unlock the iPhone 5c used by San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook without involving Apple.

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    The government has asked that the hearing be postponed for two weeks, instead taking place on Tuesday, April 5. The additional time will be used to determine whether or not the unspecified method can be used to break into the iPhone 5c in question. Sheri Pym, the judge presiding over the case, has not yet given word on whether or not the government's request will be granted.

    Over the last several weeks, Apple and the United States government have been embroiled in a heated public battle over encryption and personal privacy that started when a court ordered Apple to help the FBI unlock the iPhone 5c of terrorist Syed Farook. Unlocking the iPhone would require Apple to build a new version of iOS that bypasses iPhone passcode restrictions and provides the FBI with a way to enter passcodes electronically, something Apple has staunchly refused to do.

    Update: The judge has agreed to vacate the hearing scheduled for Tuesday, March 22, and has requested that the government provide an update by April 5. The motion requiring Apple to help the FBI lock the iPhone has been suspended.

    Update 2: In a conference call with reporters, Apple said it would insist on obtaining details about the exploit the FBI plans to use should the government keep the case going. If the case is dropped, Apple will not be able to ask for that information.

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    Article Link: DoJ Discovers 'Possible Method' for Unlocking iPhone, Asks Court to Delay Tuesday Hearing With Apple [Update: Postponed]
     
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    You mean this suddenly isn't about a precedent? Holy crud, you're actually seeking justice? Wow...
     
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    Time for Apple to make it even harder with iOS 10.
     
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    Good and bad . . .

    Good: Apple doesn't have to make GovtOS (Not that they were going to)

    Bad: There's a vulnerability somewhere.


    Edit: Was the outside party John McAfee? :rolleyes:
     
  6. bradl macrumors 68040

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    A possibility. @MuscleNerd had tweeted this site earlier this morning, which had an interesting take on it.

    https://marcan.st/2016/03/untangling-ios-pin-code-security/

    Either way, if the FBI gets this info without Apple's help or assistance, this will not turn out good PR-wise for them, nor for those who vilified/vilify Apple for not co-operating.

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    There afraid the Judge's decision will go against them!
     
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    Thats my thought too
     
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    An outside party? John McAfee perhaps? Haha.
     
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    LOL! I wonder....

    What if the FBI could have done this all along, but was baiting Apple to do it for them? With all the bad press the FBI has been getting lately, maybe they're backing off a bit now (which would be a good thing for all of us).
     
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    I heard they finally turned the phone over, and the passcode was on a sticky note on the back ...
     
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    Good.
    Now Obama can start launching drones at the perps on that stupid phone
    before we start having Paris sized Islamic atrocities that will make
    San Bernardino look like a slow news day.
    Winning.

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    Feels like the idea is to cast doubt on the security of the devices.
     
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    Looks like someone didn't get the support of the court of public opinion like they were expecting. Let's face it, they used a terrorist attack to try and scare people into giving up their security. They pulled it after 9/11 with the Patriot Act. They wanted to do it again, but it wasn't quite as easy this time and they didn't get the support they wanted. They know they'll lose tomorrow so now "suddenly" in the eleventh hour the FBI is claiming they don't need Apple. They never did, but they wanted a master key from the more secure of the two main Mobile Operating systems
     
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    Great, nobody wants to protect the iPhone in question, but rather just protect our privacy as a whole. If the DoJ thinks they can crack it without having to involve Apple that's exactly how justice should work. And it also give Apple time to "double down" for the rest of us!
     
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    Difference between losing a battle vs losing the war. Congress has been woken up Apple can't win in that arena.
     
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    Don't jailbreaks still require the user to input the device passcode?
     
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    lol... they know they were going to lose and went full retreat mode
     
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    Too much public opposition for them to proceed forward against Apple.

    Disaster averted.
     
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    Yes. Jailbreak can't unencrypt the user partition of the device (which it needs to make changes to to jailbreak.)
     

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