Don't buy the Retina Macbook Pro

mark28

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We have to teach Apple that we don't like non-replaceable parts. The only way to make Apple listen is not buying the Retina Macbook Pro with soldered RAM and Flash memory that can't be replaced by a 3rd party SSD.

Retina Macbook Pro = 15" Macbook Air with Retina display.
 

Marrakas

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May 23, 2012
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The worst thing is that you're probably serious :D

I'm not a big fan of soldered parts neither, but it's not like we can do anything about it...
 

Astroboy907

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This is going to work :rolleyes:
I totally agree with the author. I was not planning on getting retina.

First of all, I can put my own parts into the laptop and it will run just as well as a retina, complete with 512gb of flash storage and 32 (!) gb of RAM, for less than $600.

Retina is just a gimmick. Hopefully apple will see the light and put a retina on the user upgradable 15". Then i would buy in an instant. Right now I am holding off..
 

D1G1T4L

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I totally agree with the author. I was not planning on getting retina.

First of all, I can put my own parts into the laptop and it will run just as well as a retina, complete with 512gb of flash storage and 32 (!) gb of RAM, for less than $600.

Retina is just a gimmick. Hopefully apple will see the light and put a retina on the user upgradable 15". Then i would buy in an instant. Right now I am holding off..
How is retina a gimmick? Care to elaborate more on that?

retina display is going to be flop
they will reduce the prices for sure
I'm willing to think the retina display is going to be a hit.
 

pragmatous

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Not buy it?

I was going to get the retina display laptop but I plan to keep this thing for 10 years. On year 3.1 what happens when the RAM goes bad? ~$300 dollars to replace the motherboard vs 40 dollars for a new stick of RAM.

I'm still in limbo. Leaning towards the traditional macbook pro.

The worst thing is that you're probably serious :D

I'm not a big fan of soldered parts neither, but it's not like we can do anything about it...
 

Marrakas

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You say retina is just a gimmick, but you would buy a upgradable MBP instantly if they had it? Sounds to me like you want retina :)
 

Beliblis

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I'm not too worried about the soldered parts: 16gb of ram is more than enough for most people.
Internal Flash Drive: I currently work on a MacBook with 128gb SSD. Enough for all the applications, music/podcasts & documents I need. Camera RAW files are stored on an external drive.

All I hope for Apple is: the internal flash drive needs to be 100% reliable! Just like with standard-sized SSDs, certain brands & controllers seem to have a better reliability than others.
 

/dev/toaster

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We have to teach Apple that we don't like non-replaceable parts. The only way to make Apple listen is not buying the Retina Macbook Pro with soldered RAM and Flash memory that can't be replaced by a 3rd party SSD.

Retina Macbook Pro = 15" Macbook Air with Retina display.
Good luck
 

henrikrox

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I totally agree with the author. I was not planning on getting retina.

First of all, I can put my own parts into the laptop and it will run just as well as a retina, complete with 512gb of flash storage and 32 (!) gb of RAM, for less than $600.

Retina is just a gimmick. Hopefully apple will see the light and put a retina on the user upgradable 15". Then i would buy in an instant. Right now I am holding off..
Gimmick? Wow. Trying to justify not buying the new mbp or something? :)
 

Krazy Bill

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Someone clarify for me...

I watched the WWDC clip and it looked like there were user serviceable screws on the bottom of the new MBP. Why are they there if this model isn't user upgradeable? Or is this just like the Air now?
 

SandboxGeneral

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We have to teach Apple that we don't like non-replaceable parts. The only way to make Apple listen is not buying the Retina Macbook Pro with soldered RAM and Flash memory that can't be replaced by a 3rd party SSD.

Retina Macbook Pro = 15" Macbook Air with Retina display.
Ok, you go ahead and lead the boycott.

Meanwhile, the rest of the people will buy and enjoy their new Retina MBP's.
 

Astroboy907

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Gimmick? Wow. Trying to justify not buying the new mbp or something? :)
It is a marketing gimmick.

Ill bet 70% of users are fine with their current resolution screens.
Yeah, on a phone or tablet a retina screen is great! But on a laptop, its not much more.

Fine, I'll state it this way-

The way the implemented retina on the 15" is pathetic. If they put it onto the regular 15" it would be wonderful, I'd buy it in an instant. But its not, so I can live with my current res.

Or better yet, bring back the 17" macbook pro.

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The SSD is upgradeable, just like it is in the MacBook Air (or it will be eventually).
By who????? The 1% of us who are willing to take off the back covers of the computers????
 

Fraaaa

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Mar 22, 2010
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Not buy it?

I was going to get the retina display laptop but I plan to keep this thing for 10 years. On year 3.1 what happens when the RAM goes bad? ~$300 dollars to replace the motherboard vs 40 dollars for a new stick of RAM.

I'm still in limbo. Leaning towards the traditional macbook pro.
When is the last time RAM went bad?

Beside, take it to apple and they'll sort it out for you.
 

Astroboy907

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Someone clarify for me...

I watched the WWDC clip and it looked like there were user serviceable screws on the bottom of the new MBP. Why are they there if this model isn't user upgradeable? Or is this just like the Air now?
Just like the air, apples making us pay more for their crap (eg. $500 for 256gb of flash?? Could be half that and they could still make a profit)
 

D1G1T4L

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It is a marketing gimmick.

Ill bet 70% of users are fine with their current resolution screens.
Yeah, on a phone or tablet a retina screen is great! But on a laptop, its not much more.

Fine, I'll state it this way-

The way the implemented retina on the 15" is pathetic. If they put it onto the regular 15" it would be wonderful, I'd buy it in an instant. But its not, so I can live with my current res.

Or better yet, bring back the 17" macbook pro.

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By who????? The 1% of us who are willing to take off the back covers of the computers????
Retina is now a marketing gimmick?
 

Astroboy907

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When is the last time RAM went bad?

Beside, take it to apple and they'll sort it out for you.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
I have seen so many macbooks with bad RAM. Not even funny. Just check out threads on kernel panics. HUNDREDS of them.

And apple will sort it out, but for 4x the actual cost of repair.
 
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