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Don't call me Final Cut Pro "Ex" !

fox10078 said:
We have our files stored on a XSAN so that any workstation in the office can edit the projects as needed, and then once its locked It's sent to a colorist using Davinci and a sound guy using Pro Tools and to the effects team for any AE needs.

And thanks for the insult at the end, no need to get so worked up over a piece of software, and honestly man, if all i was doing was butting clips together it wouldn't matter what program I was using it would be *****...

If it doesn't work for you theres nothing wrong with that it's excellent that FCP7 still meets all your needs. Our IT department and higher ups tested X for months before introducing it to us and felt it worked with what we are doing.
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XSAN... haha, another place where apple ****ed us in the ass as pros. Do you not agree with that?????

After XSAN went bye-bye, my friend who ran technology at probably the most prolific sports production house (outside NFL) laughed off apple and went elsewhere. He was a proponent of XSAN and we used it for a long time. He saw this coming long before most of us.

I'm glad it works for you man, I'm not joking. But it just isn't an "upgrade" every house using FCS3 is going to jump on. You have to at least admit that.
 
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As much as I want to disagree with ChrisA

He's correct and I think we all know it. I don't work in the industry but I know it's tight knit like a lot of industry. Everyone knows everyone.

I don't think it's just Apple feeling the heat. Autodesk dropped Smoke from being a tool that only the well heeled can afford to being something that is now in the realm of the serious Prosumer and of larger swath of Pro users.

I don't know if the $6000 compositing app can sustain anymore but it may not have to if the market for media continue to get larger.

Web based video is only going to improve and that should create a lot more opportunities for incumbent Pro.

I think FCPX represents an early acknowledgement from Apple that

  • a. Quicktime based NLE from Apple was beyond its time.
  • b. The whole market for video distribution is pivoting right now
  • c. Rather than expensive suites the software will become cheaper building blocks.

Hardware will be the key differentiator going forward. The software will be cheap (relatively) and plentiful.
 
WRP said:
XSAN... haha, another place where apple ****ed us in the ass as pros. Do you not agree with that?????

After XSAN went bye-bye, my friend who ran technology at probably the most prolific sports production house (outside NFL) laughed off apple and went elsewhere. He was a proponent of XSAN and we used it for a long time. He saw this coming long before most of us.

I'm glad it works for you man, I'm not joking. But it just isn't an "upgrade" every house using FCS3 is going to jump on. You have to at least admit that.
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Yep, folks in the IT department are pushing XSAN for as long as they can, I don't see much of a future there myself.

Oh and no doubt about that, it isn't for everyone, it has some major flaws. It sure isn't a switch that you make without major testing.

My apologizes for thinking it was an insult.
 
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nuckinfutz said:
As much as I want to disagree with ChrisA

He's correct and I think we all know it. I don't work in the industry but I know it's tight knit like a lot of industry. Everyone knows everyone.

I don't think it's just Apple feeling the heat. Autodesk dropped Smoke from being a tool that only the well heeled can afford to being something that is now in the realm of the serious Prosumer and of larger swath of Pro users.

I don't know if the $6000 compositing app can sustain anymore but it may not have to if the market for media continue to get larger.

Web based video is only going to improve and that should create a lot more opportunities for incumbent Pro.

I think FCPX represents an early acknowledgement from Apple that

  • a. Quicktime based NLE from Apple was beyond its time.
  • b. The whole market for video distribution is pivoting right now
  • c. Rather than expensive suites the software will become cheaper building blocks.

Hardware will be the key differentiator going forward. The software will be cheap (relatively) and plentiful.
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While I agree with your assessment I couldn't disagree more with ChrisA. His whole dogma is that 400 people in the grand scheme doesn't matter. That is a pretty giant company in this space. If this size company thinks Apple is being stupid with FCP X, than what about every other big company currently using their softwares?

Onto your Discreet (aka Autodesk) comments...

My SGI smoke/flame station 10 years ago ran just south of $100K. Back when we had to work for a living, had to know command line UNIX to install anything and everything wasn't served up on a silver platter. Now people get all pissy when they have to transcode something for 10 minutes before they can start working.

Someone who never used an SGI I think should stay the hell out of the conversation. Along with anyone who doesn't understand a tablet.

Damn... am I turning into an editing hipster???? Crap.
 
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WRP said:
Onto your Discreet (aka Autodesk) comments...

My SGI smoke/flame station 10 years ago ran just south of $100K. Back when we had to work for a living, had to know command line UNIX to install anything and everything wasn't served up on a silver platter. Now people get all pissy when they have to transcode something for 10 minutes before they can start working.

Someone who never used an SGI I think should stay the hell out of the conversation. Along with anyone who doesn't understand a tablet.

Damn... am I turning into an editing hipster???? Crap.
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This is why Pro will kick the ass of anyone who hasn't or won't put in the effort. You could make Smoke $20 and just because I've got access to it doesn't mean i'm going to be good. I think lower cost software is going to qualitatively improve content overall.

Oh and yes 400 people do matter. Because we're talking worldwide here there are plenty of groups of people doing media work and they matter.
 
puckhead193 said:
that is true, i never worked with one but I'm glad i'm now in the digital age ;)
Was it hard not being able to do a "command z"?
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That's what is amazing about the Steenbeck...you measure twice, and cut once. If you're aware of the editing you're doing...you don't make a mistake. It's like tape-to-tape, but worse. You better be DAMN sure what you're doing before you make an edit decision when cutting film.
 
I don't see why it must be called Final Cut Pro Ten when the last version before it was 7 ???? :confused:
 
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