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Wow, no people have common sense anymore. I'd like to give that principle a piece of my mind :)
 
School administrators have "immediate consequences" poured in their ears during their professional development sessions and much of it too often clouds their ability to make reasonable judgments.

There's so much concern in schools to keep the "cover" on potential "crises." All this concern over violence in schools hides the socio-economic crises we face every minute of every day.
 
He said Elliot could not be worse off at this point in school discipline than if he had taken the knife to school intentionally, kept it with him in school where it could pose a risk and just happened to get caught.

"What's the incentive?" Newman said of students who want to do the right thing.

Exactly. If I were the father of another kid in this district, I'd tell him or her, "if you ever accidentally bring a swiss army knife or anything like that to school, keep it in your bag and absolutely do NOT turn it in the office."

The stupidity here is just stunning. This is why "zero tolerance" makes zero sense. :rolleyes:
 
What a crime! The administration at schools are so stupid. So many of my friends have received suspensions for getting beat-up by other kids. This doesn't surprise me. I wouldn't tell my kids to just keep the knife disclosed though. Continue to do the right thing and turn it in. Just sue the s*** out of the school when they do something like this. This is completely unaccpetable!
 
I just can't grasp this concept. Can someone please explain to me why everything is so fracking backwards?!? This kid did a GOOD thing, which took BALLS. What kind of lesson are we sending to children by enforcing this particular punishment? If you stand up for what is right you get screwed? It's sad but this is so often the case. I know from personal experience. I can't believe I'm about to say this, this NEVER happens, but I am speechless. Yes, I am sitting here with my jaw on the ground and the most exaggerated slack-jawed yokel expression you could possibly conjure.
 
QCassidy352 said:
The stupidity here is just stunning. This is why "zero tolerance" makes zero sense. :rolleyes:

"Zero tolerance" is the refuge of the incompetent.

I can hear the principal now, "I have no choice - because I have no brain or testicular fortitute - but to suspend you and recommend your expulsion."
 
Hmm, heres a brilliant idea...lets publicly make an example of a model student making a responsible choice by expelling him.

I am so happy that these morons are educating my generation. It makes me warm and fuzzy inside. :rolleyes:
 
well considering america is a place where bombing a foreign country for it's oil is the "right thing" because "god" told you so, this shouldn't surprise me.

Anyone disgusted with this I welcome you to Canada.
 
mintlivedotcom said:
Say, that bulletin board software looks familiar! :D

I did check it out, and look at what someone named Brian McQueen posted:

This principal needs to be reprimanded. He became principal a couple years ago and has been on a suspension rampage ever since. If you read the rules for discipline at this school (I forget the actual name of the document), there are steps that the school is suppose to take. However, there is a clause that states the school can pass all the steps and go straight to suspension. Jimmy Meadows always goes straight to suspension.

My daughter fell into this same trap. She was a National Junior Honor Society student. Straight A student. No history of any wrong doing. On a school bus trip, somebody tried to steel her backpack. The person kicked her and she swung her foot back at the person. Somebody reported the incident and my daughter told the truth about what happened. Because she 'kicked back' (even though there was no contact), she was suspended. She was kicked out of the NJHS, was denied graduation ceremony rights and all other after school activities.
Nice, huh?

Elsewhere on that board there are testimonials from people who know the kid, Elliot, and swear he's a nice, good kid who doesn't deserve this.

Sounds like that principal is the one who needs an expulsion.
 
Schools rock don't they?

I remember in my high school after an AP exam that took 75% of the day about 90% of the students left school to relax (I didn't), with permission slips from their parents. This made the principal unhappy so he suspended them for one day. I thought it was hilarious that the top students of the school were punished by being given a day off and even better all the AP classes ended up being study halls because so many of the students were out with suspension.
 
If this were my kid I'd rip the principal up one side and down the other. I know it wouldn't do any good, and it wouldn't make anyone feel any better - except my kid. I would make sure my kid knew I was on his side.

Then we'd have a long discussion about stupid people in positions of power and how to avoid confrontation with them. Including lying to their faces when appropriate.
 
I'm glad I went to high school in the seventies, in a rural area. I carried a swiss army knife with me every day for seven years (and still have it). It came in useful once to help a teacher open a stuck closet door.
 
I can't even begin to say how ridiculous that is. Hopefully they'll be able to sue the school for his slipping grades. Making the best out of this screwed up system.
 
No one is arguing the facts. He brought a knife to school.

What they are arguing about is the poor judgement of all involved...student, parents, administrators.

The student made an error in judgement. He should have thrown the weapon away or taken it home.

The parents made an error in judgement by suing the school. They are guaranteeing expulsion now.

The administrators made an error in judgement by in not taking into account the circumstances surrounding the disclosure of the weapon in the student's possession. The issue is moot now. There is no reason for a court to overturn the decision...the policy is clear.

Lesson learned? Schools and airports are no places for weapons of any kind.

Wand your kids before they board the bus!

Wow, yeah wand your freaking kids.... who is this guy?

He should have taken the knife home?
Thrown it out?

Things cost money! taking it home? You mean cutting class?

GOD
 
I think it is better to go to a different school, who'd want such a principal anyway. Just switch schools, concentrate on studying again and learn that honesty isn't always the best way. :rolleyes:
 
I just wrote an email to the principal.

It was a well written email except at the end, where I briefly mentioned the "jawdropping stupidity" he just displayed as principal. ;)
 
Abstract said:
I just wrote an email to the principal.

It was a well written email except at the end, where I briefly mentioned the "jawdropping stupidity" he just displayed as principal. ;)

You got too much time on your hands? :p
Do you think someone THAT ignorant and self-indulging will actually read your email, nevermind give it a thought?
 
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