Don't get me wrong I like the iPad but should I get a Microsoft Surface ?

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The latest one of course.

How has the Surface come along over the years? Anyone owns one?

I tried a Surface 3 but was not impressed.
 

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Depends on what you do for work. For those other things like Netflix, web and gaming I'd say the surface pro is superior in many ways, markedly superior if you consider things like browser extensions, being able to play full PC games, etc. The surface pro's big achilles heel was its battery life, but with newest one has very respectable battery life almost on par with the ipad pros. Virtually anything you can do on an ipad you can do on a surface pro, the added benefit is that the surface pro can go way beyond that as a full OS if you need it. Personally I don't see much reason to downgrade to an ipad other than possibly price or if you are a niche user that needs a certain app that's only on iOS, although that's pretty rare in my experience.
 
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Given those use cases, I can't see how any Surface device is better than an iPad. View attachment 827296
X86 programs are better for productivity, a point and click interface helps, you can expand the memory, and Surfaces could have access to steam games.

OP should look at the entry level Surface Pro 6 or a Surface Go with a 128gb SSD/4-8gb RAM device.
 
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X86 programs are better for productivity, a point and click interface helps, you can expand the memory, and Surfaces could have access to steam games.

OP should look at the entry level Surface Pro 6 or a Surface Go with a 128gb SSD/4-8gb RAM device.
Yeah much more than that, I could spend a long time listing out why it's so much better. But with that said everyone's situation is different so I can respect if someone chooses an ipad. Just my personal opinion but the ipad to me is a huge downgrade in terms of tablet use. Oh and I can't forget my favorite, the kickstand just markedly elevates the surface pro as a tablet.
 
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Yeah much more than that, I could spend a long time listing out why it's so much better. But with that said everyone's situation is different so I can respect if someone chooses an ipad. Just my personal opinion but the ipad to me is a huge downgrade in terms of tablet use. Oh and I can't forget my favorite, the kickstand just markedly elevates the surface pro as a tablet.
I think iPads are great at the $250-$350 mark, but once you get towards like the $500 price point? They become redundant because they lack x86 programs and point/click. The $500 iPad Air and 2018 iPad Pros are really gimmicky to me.
 
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I have an iPad 3 and iPad Air 2. I bought a Suface Go about one or two months ago and I love it. I was actually surprised at how good it is. It does much more than my iPads ever did, and even browsing the web has been a better experience for me. I guess it depends on the kind of work you do on it too. M
 

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I'd say go for surface since it's a full blown computer, so you could do more with it, like run full desktop applications. And if you get tired of Windows, there may be other options for the hardware, say a Linux distro.

I've actually been running the idea of a surface pro myself for a photo editing and back up, something I can try to keep isolated. Photography is about the only thing keeping tied to a windows box and even the grip is slipping.

Also thought of an iPad but would like something that will read cr3 raw files since Canon so kindly didn't share info on to anyone else other than Adobe:rolleyes: :mad: :(
 

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My Surface 3 was awful and my iPad Pro has been much better. But Surfaces have come a long way since the Surface 3. Just depends on what you need to use it for. Surface is closer to a full fledged laptop but the iPad is a better tablet/lite computer.
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Why not state legitimate reasons for choosing one over the other, instead of comments that add absolutely nothing?
Thats kind of his thing.
 

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I don't think there will be any surprises for the most part on the Surface Pro aside from the probable move to USC-C, but if the Go gets a heathly bumb on the processor and a little better on the battery runtime, it would make for a decent product v2.
 

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I don't think there will be any surprises for the most part on the Surface Pro aside from the probable move to USC-C, but if the Go gets a heathly bumb on the processor and a little better on the battery runtime, it would make for a decent product v2.
Seems like there are some rumors floating of a new Surface Pro having a near bezel-less design. I might have some interest in upgrading from my 2017 if that proves to be true along with the other spec bumps you mention.
 
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As stated before, it's all about one's specific needs. The greatest one being if one needs access to full programs. With an iPad you'll be getting IOS apps, as opposed to full programs. Nowadays though with some of bigger IOS apps, the differences are becoming less & less. One of the best drawing programs you can get hands down, is a $10 IOS app. Over a very expensive part of the Adobe subscription suite, which is remarkable. The downside of the Surface of course that it is a PC, which means the update situations that can occur. It's what made me give up my Surface long ago, using it sparingly now for playing the Steam games it can run.
 
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As stated before, it's all about one's specific needs. The greatest one being if one needs access to full programs. With an iPad you'll be getting IOS apps, as opposed to full programs. Nowadays though with some of bigger IOS apps, the differences are becoming less & less. One of the best drawing programs you can get hands down, is a $10 IOS app. Over a very expensive part of the Adobe subscription suite, which is remarkable. The downside of the Surface of course that it is a PC, which means the update situations that can occur. It's what made me give up my Surface long ago, using it sparingly now for playing the Steam games it can run.
It is true that usage needs depend on the user.


I wish Procreate* would make a PC version. The drawing apps were the only app that kept me trying iPads. *That said, Procreate is a brutal memory hog and I had problems even with 3gb of RAM in the non-Pro iPads. I will be very surprised if any non Pro iPad can handle the animation features coming in Procreate 5.

I am ready to try Windows again though. Too much grief with :apple: to give them more $ and chances.

OP, I would suggest to wait and see what Microsoft announce this Wednesday, think about your usage and test both.
 
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It is true that usage needs depend on the user.


I wish Procreate* would make a PC version. The drawing apps were the only app that kept me trying iPads. *That said, Procreate is a brutal memory hog and I had problems even with 3gb of RAM in the non-Pro iPads. I will be very surprised if any non Pro iPad can handle the animation features coming in Procreate 5.

I am ready to try Windows again though. Too much grief with :apple: to give them more $ and chances.

OP, I would suggest to wait and see what Microsoft announce this Wednesday, think about your usage and test both.
What griefs with Apple in particular do you have?
 

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What griefs with Apple in particular do you have?
All 8 iPad purchases I've attemped since 2017, each one developed touch disease (screen irresponsiveness), and warranted returns and/or major financial loss.

All of my Apple woes deal with poor build quality, subpar hardware and software QC, and declining customer service. Case in point, my 8+ has touch issues and choppy performance now too, not even a year after purchase.

After 23 years, and almost 6 years of constant problems with most of my Apple tech, I need to walk away.
 
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All 8 iPad purchases I've attemped since 2017, each one developed touch disease (screen irresponsiveness), and warranted returns and/or major financial loss.

All of my Apple woes deal with poor build quality, subpar hardware and software QC, and declining customer service. Case in point, my 8+ has touch issues and choppy performance now too, not even a year after purchase.

After 23 years, and almost 6 years of constant problems with most of my Apple tech, I need to walk away.
My iPad Pro doesn't have touch disease, but did develop random reboot disease not long after the warranty period. I have tried doing a reset and a fresh install, but it made no difference. It just randomly reboots from time to time in the middle of whatever you are doing. Not tied to any specific app or task. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. The one that it replaced only boots to the Apple logo, goes black, boots to the Apple logo, goes black. Perhaps that's just the way iPads act as they age out. I have had a number of iPads over the years, but I don't think I am going to replace this one.
 
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All 8 iPad purchases I've attemped since 2017, each one developed touch disease (screen irresponsiveness), and warranted returns and/or major financial loss.

All of my Apple woes deal with poor build quality, subpar hardware and software QC, and declining customer service. Case in point, my 8+ has touch issues and choppy performance now too, not even a year after purchase.

After 23 years, and almost 6 years of constant problems with most of my Apple tech, I need to walk away.
Kazmac.....you should stop frustrating yourself. You walk three steps away from Apple and then reverse direction and walk 2 and 3/4 steps back towards Apple. This is wasting your time, money and cannot be giving a sense of calm. It appears that you have made the decision that current Apple products cannot provide you with the trouble free experience that you both require and deserve. You have stated that you need to walk away......so start walking quickly and as Boston sang in 1978, Don't Look Back.

All the best on the new path...
 
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Kazmac.....you should stop frustrating yourself. You walk three steps away from Apple and then reverse direction and walk 2 and 3/4 steps back towards Apple. This is wasting your time, money and cannot be giving a sense of calm. It appears that you have made the decision that current Apple products cannot provide you with the trouble free experience that you both require and deserve. You have stated that you need to walk away......so start walking quickly and as Boston sang in 1978, Don't Look Back.

All the best on the new path...
That's how I see it too. I am waiting on alternatives. By the end of this year, I will have more choices that are in line with what I need and want.

After so many years though, change is tricky. However, I am finally ready to move on. I've got wonderful support off and online, so it is time.
 
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How about the new ones announced today? They're pretty nice. I still can't stand Windows though...