I just had a very lengthy conversation with my sales rep (and the Cingular/ATT store manager). He was at a sales meeting this morning and they made it VERY cleaer (his words) that if you are not eligible for an upgrade (i.e. you just became a new customer in the past 6 months) you MAY NOT buy an iphone without buying an entirely new number!!!! I very carefully explained that this will drive customers away like crazy and he said that was well know to TPTB at Cingular but nevertheless, if you are not eligible for an upgrade, no iphone for you. Take it to the bank (his words, not mine again). Often times, on this forum people want to pounce and say things like: liar, trouble maker, B.S. ... all I can say is I have no motive to lie about this and he was a store manager telling me that he got this directly this morning. I'm one of the people who switched to Cingular two months ago so I could get an iPhone and this screws me big time. I'm just the messenger.