Don't let the Naysayers put you off the RetinaMBP

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If you were to believe the moaning on this site, then about half the rMBP are faulty, which is of course absolute bollocks.

When Apple said it's the best portable they have ever made, they were telling the truth. It's an amazing computer, so thin and light compared to the previous 15". The screen (no matter which manufacturer) is truly a thing of beauty and a real game changer once again from apple. The speakers sound superb for a laptop, the graphics are great (even if you want to game). Battery life under ML is amazing, I'm getting an average of 7.5hrs with screen at 80% brightness.

So just remember, for every moaning thread about having swapped out their rMBP 7 times or whatever, there are hundreds of perfectly happy users of this brilliant piece of technology that don't feel the need to let everyone know how perfect it is.
 

defektion

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I've been running my 2.6/16/512 as my work computer for the past 2 days on two mismatched external dell monitors running my MBPr in clamshell mode and the machine has been AMAZING to me so far.

Yes, I have an LG LCD.
Yes, a little bit of backlight bleeding
I don't see any ghosting because my MBPr is running in clamshell mode 80% of the time unless i'm at home.
Yes, I notice some lag and I also run my system at the scaled 1680 x 1050 resolution.

Overall, I'm extremely happy with the system it's only going to get better from here on out.
 

flipnap

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its luck of the draw actually. if you got a bad unit youd simply be one of those "complainers" posting about your issues instead of this. you dont really expect people to NOT be vocal about getting a bad unit do you? i mean, you are being vocal about getting a good unit. You are just adding insult to injury by calling people complainers.

we went through the agony of 4-6 week shipping times, counting the days to delivery.. finally loading up software and falling in love with the machine, only to have to pack it back up and take it to the store and ship it back and go through it all over again, checking delivery status, etc. honestly you should be humbled that you got a good unit and are happy, you easily could have been one of the less fortunate stuck in the "panel lottery" or with a machine with holes in it, or creaks in the case, etc.
 

Mossmann

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Best looking, fastest computer I've ever seen or used. Totally love it, no problems. Before purchasing I was almost put off my the bad reviews on here, so glad I didn't wait any longer.

Everything is instant, booting up, rendering in FCP and Adobe programs.

I have even got FIFA 12 to run at 2880X1880 using my PS3 controller on full settings, best looking game of FIFA I've ever played! and no lag!

Screen is a joy to look at and Im fully addicted to my new MacBook.

Brilliant :)
 

geoffreak

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Another happy rMBP user here. No ghosting, blacklight bleed, or other defects.

One thing I noticed that doesn't seem to be mentioned is how cool the rMBP runs. While it certainly can get hot during gaming or other high CPU use, normal use keeps it very cool. I can actually touch any part of the computer without the fear of even mild discomfort. Coming from a early '08 MBP, where the temps hovered around 70 degrees C in the CPU for mild use, 45 degrees C in the CPU is a huge improvement that leads to significantly lower temperatures overall. I'm sure new Apple's thermal design certainly helps because after doing some extremely CPU/GPU taxing processes, the temperature can drop from around 80-90 degrees C in the CPU back to 45 degrees C in about a minute. :eek:

Also, my rMBP crashed today (crappy not-up-to-date Razer drivers grumble grumble) and I was back on the desktop in less than 20 seconds and back what I was doing a few seconds later. :D
 

Kayan

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That's your personal experience. Nothing more.
This is shortsighted. People flock to forums like this for that very reason: they don't want some companies analysis or ads telling how good their product is, they want personal experiences from, generally, people only interested in sharing their real experience with the product and solutions to any problems they have.

Thanks for your opinion Adidas. I, for one, actually did have a negative taste from all the complaints that I've heard about the computer. But you're right, people who post on these forums are usually the ones that have had problems/need answers and do not represent the majority.
 

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This is shortsighted. People flock to forums like this for that very reason: they don't want some companies analysis or ads telling how good their product is, they want personal experiences from, generally, people only interested in sharing their real experience with the product and solutions to any problems they have.

Thanks for your opinion Adidas. I, for one, actually did have a negative taste from all the complaints that I've heard about the computer. But you're right, people who post on these forums are usually the ones that have had problems/need answers and do not represent the majority.
Exactly the reason I posted this thread. :)
 

Michael Goff

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I thought about really getting one this year, but instead opted to wait until next year... and let me tell you why.

Retina-capable programs.

I figure that within a year, most of the things out there will actually be able to take advantage of the gorgeous screen. Not only that, but this is a big change for notebooks. I expected, when I first saw the keynote, that there would be some small software issues with the OS and so forth.

Next year is when everything should align for my first rMBP purchase.

I figure it's worth the wait to get an amazing 3800$ computer that makes everything look awesome.
 

cms2

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I have an LG screen, and I absolutely love my new rMBP. White is white, the display is amazingly bright and crisp (I typically use it at one-third brightness) and everything is blazing fast. I occasionally see a bit of lag (usually on the same websites), but I for one am convinced it's a software issue, not a hardware issue. I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying that, but either way, it's never noticeable enough to bother me, and I'm incredibly picky. I went to the Apple Store several times to play on one before I bought it, mainly because the "reviews" on here had me worried. I was concerned when viewing a large group pool on flickr, as it really lagged in scrolling. But then I loaded the same page on a new Air one table over, and discovered the same behavior.

So glad I didn't wait any longer. Thanks for starting this thread, OP.

2.3 GHz / 8 GB / 256 GB
 

AZREOSpecialist

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LOVE LOVE LOVE my Retina MacBook Pro!

This is the fastest, thinnest, lightest and most amazing Apple laptop I've ever owned. I've had the tiPowerBook, the 17" non-unibody MBP Core 2 Duo, the 17" Unibody i7 MBP, and now a 15' RMBP. This one is hands down the best.

The screen density is amazing, once you get used to Retina - even at normal viewing distances - you will lament going back to a regular screen. Absolutely no performance issues whatsoever. None. A couple of things to keep in mind when reading through these forums:
  1. FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) is everywhere when a newer, faster, and sexier machine is introduced.
  2. Internet Amplification Effect - for the most part, owners don't come here to praise, they come here to troubleshoot and seek solidarity with others having similar issues in the hopes of finding a fix. No matter the product, there will always be a high number of complaints online.
Thank you for creating this thread.

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I have an LG screen, and I absolutely love my new rMBP. White is white, the display is amazingly bright and crisp (I typically use it at one-third brightness) and everything is blazing fast. I occasionally see a bit of lag (usually on the same websites), but I for one am convinced it's a software issue, not a hardware issue. I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying that, but either way, it's never noticeable enough to bother me, and I'm incredibly picky. I went to the Apple Store several times to play on one before I bought it, mainly because the "reviews" on here had me worried. I was concerned when viewing a large group pool on flickr, as it really lagged in scrolling. But then I loaded the same page on a new Air one table over, and discovered the same behavior.

So glad I didn't wait any longer. Thanks for starting this thread, OP.

2.3 GHz / 8 GB / 256 GB
This video should assuage your concerns regarding graphics performance:

http://youtu.be/Dudx1GhHGiY
 

sofianito

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If you were to believe the moaning on this site, then about half the rMBP are faulty, which is of course absolute bollocks.

When Apple said it's the best portable they have ever made, they were telling the truth. It's an amazing computer, so thin and light compared to the previous 15". The screen (no matter which manufacturer) is truly a thing of beauty and a real game changer once again from apple. The speakers sound superb for a laptop, the graphics are great (even if you want to game). Battery life under ML is amazing, I'm getting an average of 7.5hrs with screen at 80% brightness.

So just remember, for every moaning thread about having swapped out their rMBP 7 times or whatever, there are hundreds of perfectly happy users of this brilliant piece of technology that don't feel the need to let everyone know how perfect it is.
People are moaning on this site and on other sites, blogs,...etc

One of the worst things that can happen to you in life is to win a bet on a horse at an early age...

The product has to be tested and reviewed in the field by consumers, not only in the labs by Apple engineers... So, the best laptop they have ever made has to come... because it is up to the public to claim such statement, not to Apple...
 

LostSoul80

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People flock to forums like this for that very reason: they don't want some companies analysis or ads telling how good their product is, they want personal experiences from, generally, people only interested in sharing their real experience with the product and solutions to any problems they have.
I'm sorry, what is on display in this thread? A generic "I'm good with it" sort of topic? I don't see how anyone could benefit from this. It's quite obvious that most computers work without relevant problems, we'd see the web whining otherwise.

Great observation of the obvious. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread, why are you here?
So it is not obvious that the MR forums contain threads with people complaining or reporting issues with their devices? The obvious is this thread itself, and personally I don't consider it of any importance, being one of the many. What does this add up?
 

sofianito

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Great observation of the obvious. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread, why are you here?

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Hey, if you don't like the content then change the channel. If you and others like you can start threads complaining about this machine, others can certainly start threads praising the machine. Fair is fair.
Do you live in a democratic country? :D

Read yourself, and ask yourself in what are you contributing?... You are just filling MR's postgres or mysql database with duplicate entries...:D
 

terraphantm

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I'm sorry, what is on display in this thread? A generic "I'm good with it" sort of topic? I don't see how anyone could benefit from this. It's quite obvious that most computers work without relevant problems, we'd see the web whining otherwise.
While that may be obvious to you, there are so many people ******** on this laptop on this forum (many of these people don't even own one) that it creates an illusion that the laptop is actually much worse than it actually is. Even I was having second thoughts and almost cancelled my order. But I'm sure glad I didn't because this laptop really is amazing.
 

sofianito

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most of the haters are 2010/11 owners. You can bet when the 2013 model comes out we'll be haters of the new model then hah.
I am a proud 2008 MBP owner :cool:

Your allies won't dare to tell you that your statements are based on pure guessing... wimps :D
 

nuckinfutz

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The main issue i've seen is complaints about lag.

With regard to display there is a wide dynamic range of experiences. Some people cannot stand glossy screens. They don't bother me one iota.

Some people can see flicker in some displays that others simply cannot.


This is why I grow tired of the lag complaints because it's at a point now where a lot of people see it and a lot of people don't see it.

As for the maiden voyage of the rMBP. I think it's been as solid of a release as any from my vantage point.
 

cms2

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LOVE LOVE LOVE my Retina MacBook Pro!

This is the fastest, thinnest, lightest and most amazing Apple laptop I've ever owned. I've had the tiPowerBook, the 17" non-unibody MBP Core 2 Duo, the 17" Unibody i7 MBP, and now a 15' RMBP. This one is hands down the best.

The screen density is amazing, once you get used to Retina - even at normal viewing distances - you will lament going back to a regular screen. Absolutely no performance issues whatsoever. None. A couple of things to keep in mind when reading through these forums:
  1. FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) is everywhere when a newer, faster, and sexier machine is introduced.
  2. Internet Amplification Effect - for the most part, owners don't come here to praise, they come here to troubleshoot and seek solidarity with others having similar issues in the hopes of finding a fix. No matter the product, there will always be a high number of complaints online.
Thank you for creating this thread.

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This video should assuage your concerns regarding graphics performance:

http://youtu.be/Dudx1GhHGiY
That video was awesome. Thanks for sharing! And I agree - I can't imagine going back to another computer, even another Mac.
 

mykelala01

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May 17, 2009
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While that may be obvious to you, there are so many people ******** on this laptop on this forum (many of these people don't even own one) that it creates an illusion that the laptop is actually much worse than it actually is. Even I was having second thoughts and almost cancelled my order. But I'm sure glad I didn't because this laptop really is amazing.
Or the other way around...you are trying to justify your purchase. "did I or not make a mistake in buying rMBP" try to convince thy self is the worst feeling of buyers remorse. :cool:
 

mykelala01

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May 17, 2009
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If you were to believe the moaning on this site, then about half the rMBP are faulty, which is of course absolute bollocks.

When Apple said it's the best portable they have ever made, they were telling the truth. It's an amazing computer, so thin and light compared to the previous 15". The screen (no matter which manufacturer) is truly a thing of beauty and a real game changer once again from apple. The speakers sound superb for a laptop, the graphics are great (even if you want to game). Battery life under ML is amazing, I'm getting an average of 7.5hrs with screen at 80% brightness.

So just remember, for every moaning thread about having swapped out their rMBP 7 times or whatever, there are hundreds of perfectly happy users of this brilliant piece of technology that don't feel the need to let everyone know how perfect it is.
"Oh my God I need to post this to MacRumors forum. So I can find my minion, that will help my buyer remorse goes away. Oh my god I read all these negativity towards rMBP. Need to read some positive about rMBP so I can sleep at night. Oh my God! all those negative are just trolling or jealous because they can't afford rMBP. Oh my God!":D
 

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"Oh my God I need to post this to MacRumors forum. So I can find my minion, that will help my buyer remorse goes away. Oh my god I read all these negativity towards rMBP. Need to read some positive about rMBP so I can sleep at night. Oh my God! all those negative are just trolling or jealous because they can't afford rMBP. Oh my God!":D
1: It's just a laptop.
2: Don't be bitter if mommy said no.
3: Moaners always shout louder than the happy.
4: Not one ounce of remorse here, just evening up the balance.
5: Don't be bitter if mommy said no.
6: I sleep like a baby thanks.
 

mykelala01

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1: It's just a laptop.
2: Don't be bitter if mommy said no.
3: Moaners always shout louder than the happy.
4: Not one ounce of remorse here, just evening up the balance.
5: Don't be bitter if mommy said no.
6: I sleep like a baby thanks.

You said so... I believe you! just make sure to hide those eye bags:eek: