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2nyRiggz

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Thank you Jah...I'm so Blessed
Come on, we all know reviewers are on publishers payrolls ;) except this guy, clearly.

I don't like Gamespot. Never did, never will. Eurogamer and 1up are the only folk I listen to now. Hopefully it sparks the end of Gamespot or some big shake up.
 
I never listen to game reviews.

And I never listen to movie reviews.

The only reviews I trust are the reviews of other customers like myself.
 
Don't trust gamesite reviews...
...unless I write them :D

Nah, but honestly, anyone who reads one review and goes with it is being ignorant. Tastes vary; different people prefer different styles and gameplay.

Read multiple reviews, and read the text, not the score. Look for key words that would sound to be of interest or might be a turn off to you. Think of reviews as a more detailed description of the game, rather than some kind of Canon that must be adhered to.
 
Yep -

At its core, what is a review? An opinion.

What does everyone else in the world have? Opinions. :rolleyes:

I've seen enough reviews I disagree with (in levels from slightly to completely opposite) that I no longer see reviews as anything worth the website or magazine they are displayed/printed on. :p

Grain of salt...awards and high grades are bought and sold daily folks...I think we all know that by now since most of us are lifelong 15+ year gamers. ;)
 
The trick is to find a reviewer that has a similar taste in games that you do.


Lethal

I wish...
Sushi/Sushi X is no more ;)
that man was a genius...one of the few reviewers I had respect for/shared tastes with.

Nick Rox OTOH can go suck it :rolleyes: :p :cool:
"The super art shadows in Street Fighter Alpha on the Saturn are sorta blue-tinted but not a true transparent blue like they're supposed to be."
 
"We're very clear in our review policies that all reviews are vetted by the entire team before they go live - everything that goes up is the product of an entire team's output. Our freelancers are especially guilty of making snide comments, but those are always yanked before the review goes live, because everyone in the office reads these reviews and makes sure they're up to our standards before they get put up.

If there was a problem with his reviews, then it would've been a problem with the entire team. Firing him without telling anyone implies that anyone else on this team can be fired at the drop of a hat as well, because none of us are writing any differently or meaner or less professionally than we were two years ago before the management changed. I'm sure management wants to spin this as the G-Man being unprofessional to take away from the egg on their face that results after a ten-year employee gets locked out of his office and told to leave the premises and then no one communicates anything to us about it until the next day.

This management team has shown what they're willing to do. Jeff had ten years in and was ****ing locked out of his office and told to leave the building.

What you might not be aware of is that GS is well known for appealing mostly to hardcore gamers. The mucky-mucks have been doing a lot of "brand research" over the last year or so and indicating that they want to reach out to more casual gamers. Our last executive editor, Greg Kasavin, left to go to EA, and he was replaced by a suit, Josh Larson, who had no editorial experience and was only involved on the business side of things. Over the last year there has been an increasing amount of pressure to allow the advertising teams to have more of a say in the editorial process; we've started having to give our sales team heads-ups when a game is getting a low score, for instance, so that they can let the advertisers know that before a review goes up. Other publishers have started giving us notes involving when our reviews can go up; if a game's getting a 9 or above, it can go up early; if not, it'll have to wait until after the game is on the shelves.

I was in the meeting where Josh Larson was trying to explain this firing and the guy had absolutely no response to any of the criticisms we were sending his way. He kept dodging the question, saying that there were "multiple instances of tone" in the reviews that he hadn't been happy about, but that wasn't Jeff's problem since we all vet every review. He also implied that "AAA" titles deserved more attention when they were being reviewed, which sounded to all of us that he was implying that they should get higher scores, especially since those titles are usually more highly advertised on our site.

I know that it's all about the money, and hey, I like money. I like advertising because it pays my salary. Unfortunately after Kasavin left the church-and-state separation between the sales teams and the editorial team has cracked, and with Jeff's firing I think it's clear that the management now has no interest at all in integrity and are instead looking for an editorial team that will be nicer to the advertisors.

When companies make games as downright contemptible as Kane and Lynch, they deserve to be called on it. I guess you'll have to go to Onion or a smaller site for objective reviews now, because everyone at GS now thinks that if they give a low score to a high-profile game, they'll be **********. Everyone's ****ing scared and we're all hoping to get Josh Larson removed from his position because no one trusts him anymore. If that doesn't happen then look for every game to be Game of the Year material at GameSpot."

http://valleywag.com/tech/jeff-gerst...ter-328775.php

I've never really let reviewers influence what I purchase..I read the reviews of customers(but no a days with the fanboys) Its all business these days. Gamespot has lost a lot of credibility in the past year or so....maybe they can get it together or disappear completely.


Bless
 
^ It was probably the 'don't pay full price' for this comment at the end that was his death nail, but at the end of the day it doesn't surprise me one bit.

When big name games continue to get great reviews despite being down right average, how the hell can we trust any of the gaming sites anymore.
 
Penny Arcade has been ripping on game reviewers a lot lately. Gabe (yes, I know that's not his real name) goes into it in detail in the last link. There are some others I didn't bother to post.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/11/29

http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/show/22320

http://www.penny-arcade.com/news/show/22310

Tycho (I know) summed up Gabe's position in 3 points:

"1. Game Reviewers Are Wrong
2. They Will Always Be Wrong
and the next one, the one that still brings out the sweat on their forehead,
3. Their Method For Reviewing Games Is Corrupt In An Imperceptible Way."
 
The revolt has started. Apparently there's a huge influx of 1.0 rated user reviews for Kane and Lynch.

I post no link as I won't be visiting them again.
 
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