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Gary - where do you work? Remember, whereever it is, it is better than being stuck in Baltimore all day, everyday. The only redeeming thing is that on a nice day (not today), I could study by Camden Yards.

Of course, today I have one class. for one hour. But I've got a couple hours of meetings. And a memo. And I need to find a job for after I finish school in May. And I don't want to do anything.
 
iGary said:
No desire to work today.

At all.

Anyone else? :(

I'm at home waiting for some people to review work I did and get back to me with the changes.....so until then, I'm not doing much. Doing freelance and being a Mr. Mom is great sometimes, but I miss being in an office and working directly with other people.

And today its crappy outside, so I can't really enjoy doing anything outdoors...

J-lo - if you're good enough with the words, you should probably temp at a few more places or talk to other temps to get some good stories - a book about that could be quite entertaining. But don't you have a film project to do?

D
 
Ugh

I also have no motivation today - my first class is a distribution management class, and we have had 6 lectures in a row about the US Postal Service....YAWN! I have no one to blame but myself, however, since it's a class I don't need to take. :eek:
 
I feel your pain, iGary. Two weeks ago, I was told to hand off (to my GM) all daily operations for the prepress department (for which I get to keep total accountability, just lost control) I've managed for the past 8 years, and start looking into digital printing equipment.
I knew darn little about digital printing, and am, so far, learning just enough to make me leery of learning more. Every pebble I pick up reveals a teeming world of detail to absorb, and I feel like I'm drowning in info with no life-vest in sight. Funny thing is, I felt pretty much the same when I was dropped into prepress, except then I inherited a support staff with a strong base of knowledge to teach me what I needed to know. We have no one else here with any digital printing background.

I am trying to look at it as a reward for having transitioned prepress from a department in chaos into an efficiently run production center, but part of me resents having worked so hard only to be pulled off now that I have gotten everything buttoned down.
I know I should be excited and energized by the new opportunity, but I'm having a hard time getting motivated. And it is just too damn easy to escape into MacRumors.

Wah-wah-wah. Now, back to work.
 
powermac666 said:
I feel your pain, iGary. I am trying to look at it as a reward for having transitioned prepress from a department in chaos into an efficiently run production center, but part of me resents having worked so hard only to be pulled off now that I have gotten everything buttoned down.
I know I should be excited and energized by the new opportunity, but I'm having a hard time getting motivated.

But if someone else came along and got the job and then in a year or so you saw the traditional prepress work being taken over by the digital prepress work, you'd be a little upset I think finding that you'd be put out of a job eventually....

D
 
MacRy said:
Try this list here

That information I don't think I'll ever need to know.....

But can anyone tell me this - what caused the change from Dukes, Viscount, Marquess and Earls to regular (somewhat) individuals? And what's the difference between a Viscount and a Count?

I know this is OT - but its also a thread about not doing work, so I think that fits. :D

D
 
Every day for the past few weeks I've announced a morning, "What would be more fun than going to work today" activity. Today's was hiding in treehouses shooting pebbles at construction workers. Yesterday's was collecting leaves and making chocolate leaves out of them. I figure, just because i have to waste my life in this building, doesn't mean i can't make up better memories for myself...
 
Mr. Anderson said:
That information I don't think I'll ever need to know.....

But can anyone tell me this - what caused the change from Dukes, Viscount, Marquess and Earls to regular (somewhat) individuals? And what's the difference between a Viscount and a Count?

I know this is OT - but its also a thread about not doing work, so I think that fits. :D

D

Well a Count is someone who lives in a darkened castle up on a mountain top somewhere, laughing maniacally as he waits for the latest virgin to stumble upon his lair.....and the other is a rather yummy old biscuit from Burtons:

Viscount_250x183.jpg


I believe that's the information that you are after.
 
jelloshotsrule said:
try working as a temp. you feel totally detached from your work as in a day or a week it could be gone. therefore, you don't really build relationships with co-workers. you are more likely to drag work out than work hard to get it done so you can leave early...

the motivation is non-existent. well, except paying the bills

i've considered writing a book about being a temp...

see the movie "clockwatchers".
 
Mr. Anderson said:
But if someone else came along and got the job and then in a year or so you saw the traditional prepress work being taken over by the digital prepress work, you'd be a little upset I think finding that you'd be put out of a job eventually....

D

I got'cha, but actually the transition I just completed was bringing us to a digital prepress environment. All digital proofing, 100% computer-to-plate. No more film at all. We've gone from a staff of 45 in 2000 to a staff of 16 today, while increasing throughput. (God, I sound like a freakin' manager, don't I?:rolleyes:. Well, if you're gonna be one, might as well be a good one.)

The digital print end will probably draw some work from our offset pressroom, but it will mostly bring in new business like variable imprinting and real short-runs. Should have almost no impact on our prepress end at all.
The tough part now is figuring out if we want to jump in with a high-end digital 4C press like an iGen3 or go with a smaller 4C press or even start with black only, like a DocuTech. Once we decide what we want to do, it's all about process control. That's where I'm most comfortable. It's all this "up in the air with no one wanting to make a decision" stuff that drives me crazy. That includes me. :eek: :p
 
Mr. Anderson said:
I'm at home waiting for some people to review work I did and get back to me with the changes.....so until then, I'm not doing much. Doing freelance and being a Mr. Mom is great sometimes, but I miss being in an office and working directly with other people.

And today its crappy outside, so I can't really enjoy doing anything outdoors...

J-lo - if you're good enough with the words, you should probably temp at a few more places or talk to other temps to get some good stories - a book about that could be quite entertaining. But don't you have a film project to do?

D

Yeah, it is nasty outside here too, lots of discs to work on - and I do miss the office environment a little, too.
 
jelloshotsrule said:
i've considered writing a book about being a temp...

A guy called dave wrote one about subbing as a teaching assistant - it's a really excellent read. You should write a book about temping, you get into a really weird state of mind temping.
 
Mr. Anderson said:
J-lo - if you're good enough with the words, you should probably temp at a few more places or talk to other temps to get some good stories - a book about that could be quite entertaining. But don't you have a film project to do?

there's always film projects to do.

i've very very strongly considered writing at least some sort of blog/memoirs of a temp type thing. i also have a friend with a publishing company (that i work on the film section of...). so it's feasible. you are probably right that i should talk to other temps. as of now i've had temp jobs technically in 3 places (2 places about 4 years ago, and 1 recently for 6+ months). 2 different departments in my current place. and it seems every day i realize something new about temping, and my stories seem to evoke much laughter from friends about finding ways to kill time, etc... one thing i'd be hesitant about would be publishing it under my name while i'm potentially working for/near my previous companies! hah

3rdpath said:
see the movie "clockwatchers".

damn, netflix doesn't have it and no date listed as to when they will. i'm sure you know the producer or director or something, just have them send me a copy. ;)
 
powermac666 said:
I got'cha, but actually the transition I just completed was bringing us to a digital prepress environment. All digital proofing, 100% computer-to-plate. No more film at all. We've gone from a staff of 45 in 2000 to a staff of 16 today, while increasing throughput. (God, I sound like a freakin' manager, don't I?:rolleyes:. Well, if you're gonna be one, might as well be a good one.)

The digital print end will probably draw some work from our offset pressroom, but it will mostly bring in new business like variable imprinting and real short-runs. Should have almost no impact on our prepress end at all.
The tough part now is figuring out if we want to jump in with a high-end digital 4C press like an iGen3 or go with a smaller 4C press or even start with black only, like a DocuTech. Once we decide what we want to do, it's all about process control. That's where I'm most comfortable. It's all this "up in the air with no one wanting to make a decision" stuff that drives me crazy. That includes me. :eek: :p

A lot of big companies like LL Bean, US News (those are two a friend of mine set up their in-house pre-press) are doing pre-press themselves these days.

I've only written for one publication that used a printer for pre-press.

Maybe you could start pitching come publications/checking with your connections in the biz, PM.
 
Talk about not wanting to follow through w/ 'work'... I didn't go to a single one of my classes all last week. :eek:
 
powermac666 said:
I got'cha, but actually the transition I just completed was bringing us to a digital prepress environment. All digital proofing, 100% computer-to-plate. No more film at all. We've gone from a staff of 45 in 2000 to a staff of 16 today, while increasing throughput. (God, I sound like a freakin' manager, don't I?:rolleyes:. Well, if you're gonna be one, might as well be a good one.)

The digital print end will probably draw some work from our offset pressroom, but it will mostly bring in new business like variable imprinting and real short-runs. Should have almost no impact on our prepress end at all.
The tough part now is figuring out if we want to jump in with a high-end digital 4C press like an iGen3 or go with a smaller 4C press or even start with black only, like a DocuTech. Once we decide what we want to do, it's all about process control. That's where I'm most comfortable. It's all this "up in the air with no one wanting to make a decision" stuff that drives me crazy. That includes me. :eek: :p

Hey Powermac666, I do a lot of pre-press work and yes my company has an all digital direct-to-place workflow. I love it and its so much better than dealing with negatives! I am working at a flexographic printer so its a lot different than probably some things you are doing at your company! May I ask what software system you are using for your workflow? We went with Creo Systems. Just curious!
 
macartistkel said:
Hey Powermac666, I do a lot of pre-press work and yes my company has an all digital direct-to-place workflow. I love it and its so much better than dealing with negatives! I am working at a flexographic printer so its a lot different than probably some things you are doing at your company! May I ask what software system you are using for your workflow? We went with Creo Systems. Just curious!

We were using Heidelberg Delta Technology for years, but it was clear that Heidy was leaving it behind in favor of Prinect (no advancement in trap engine, "beyond" poor pdf support, lots of 3rd party black boxes required to export Delta List for proofing/plating). We switched to Esko-Graphics' Scope workflow last year, and find it works very well for us. The trapping is beautifully done, impo is pretty easy (quite similar to Preps), re-mapping colors is a breeze, and DLT proofing is pretty easy on folks used to checking film. We use Acrobat Pro 7 for proofing.
We also looked hard at Rampage, and could have gone either way, really.
 
absolute ditto!

im not at university today. frankly its going to be another lecture about post-modernism and whilst i need to do the contextual side of my course; its more important right now i get my actual graphic (and with a sooner deadline) projects done. which is more fun than work to me.

BUT so far all day i've done nothing but take my dogs out. played Advance Wars DS. watched some Channel 4 morning drama thing. had a bacon butty. :) thats it
 
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