iPhone XS Door Pass Activating Apple Pay?!

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  1. Dino F macrumors 68030

    Dino F

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    I have a really strange issue...?!!

    I have 2 door passes in my iPhone XS case/wallet (Twelve South Surface Pad) - one door pass is to gain access to my office building and the other activates the elevator up to my floor. These are both stored in the front left flap of my case (as in the below pic) :

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    When the flap is closed, I can use the cards through the flap (without the need to remove the cards) to activate the door and also the elevator however, sometimes, Apple Pay also activates as I touch the case/phone next to the reader??!

    At first, I just thought I was absent mindedly also double pressing the Power button which could be activating it so i just made point just now to go out and test this and low and behold, I was NOT pressing the power button!!

    Has anybody else experienced anything like this? It seems like the frequency used in the door passes is somehow confusing the phone into thinking it is being held next to a payment reader for Apple Pay...?!?!
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  3. lartola, Jul 19, 2019
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    lartola macrumors 6502

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    It's because the technology used for contactlessly paying with Apple Pay, called NFC, is the same that's used at many places including hotels and office buildings (like yours) to operate the contactless locks and key cards that grant people access to different areas in the building. So, basically, your iPhone is detecting the contactless locks in your office building because they also use NFC contactless technology and thinks they're payment terminals, so it launches Apple Pay automatically. A few hotel chains such as Starwoods are already taking advantage of this and allow guests to use their app to get an electronic key and unlock their room with just their iPhone or Apple Watch.

    Solution: Pull out the key card from the case before you use it. Unfortunately, unlike Android phones, iPhones don't allow us to toggle the NFC antenna on or off.
     
  4. I7guy macrumors Core

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    To activate Apple Pay I have to double click the home button twice. Just holding the max near a terminal doesn’t activate Apple Pay.
     
  5. IndianBird macrumors 6502a

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    I don’t have to double tap.
     
  6. rossdavidson3729 macrumors newbie

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    What about turning on double click to activate In the settings for Apple Pay.

    I have this on and my Apple Pay never activates without double clicking the power button
     
  7. lartola macrumors 6502

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    Yes it does. At least on the regular Xs it does, and presumably the iphone X too. It doesn’t make the actual payment until you double-click, but it does bring up the Apple Pay interface telling you to double-click to pay. On older iphone models, it was possible to pay by just putting the iphone near the terminal with the finger on the fingerprint reader.
     
  8. I7guy macrumors Core

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    Maybe you’re right about that. But as Apple opens up this nfc there has to be a way to tell what kind of nfc chip is on the other end.
     
  9. JPack macrumors 601

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    Agreed. That's normal behavior for iPhone since iPhone 6.

    Apple Pay gets triggers if I put the phone near any NFC reader, including the cup holder in my Model 3.
     
  10. Soccerrick10 macrumors newbie

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    Mine does the same at my office. I’ve gotten in the habit to slip my finger in the case while accessing the door pass. It’s just enough separation to not activate Apple Pay when I enter or exit the building.
     
  11. 1rottenapple macrumors 68020

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    My tesla card reader (to start it) activates my iPhone lol. I can’t put the phone on the front cup holder without Apple Pay showing up.
     

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