Double posts

[jsw]

Interesting... couldn't these all have been combined into the original posts?

 

[~Shard~]

Interesting... couldn't these all have been combined into the original posts?

No more than these 111 posts could have been combined...

 

[Mitthrawnuruodo]

And we're all very impressed by your combined quote too.

You mean like this p)?:

It really wasn't that funny.

Ask bousozoku - yes it was.

Well, I found it hysterical...

But, seriously, in most cases the odd double post doesn't matter. Though it looks weird when someone has 5 posts in a row, post threading or not, that is usually unnecessary...

Now, I think dialoging on the end of long threads is just as bad. When all that's left of a thread is two or three people just quoting each other for a couple of pages.

 

[emw]

I'd much rather see the occasional double post that reflects serious thought on two separate yet related topics than see the thousands of "I agree" "Cool" "" response that crop up.

If we're going to go through the forums culling for this type of supposed double-post, then while we're at it let's delete every post less that 4 words.

 

[Blue Velvet]

I'd much rather see the occasional double post that reflects serious thought on two separate yet related topics than see the thousands of "I agree" "Cool" "" response that crop up.

If we're going to go through the forums culling for this type of supposed double-post, then while we're at it let's delete every post less that 4 words.

I agree... cool.

 

[cb911]

hey where's this little quote button...??

i took a screenshot - as you can see it's nowhere to be seen...

ahwell - i guess this means i'll have to just keep posting double and triple posts.

 

[emw]

hey where's this little quote button...??

Refers to the quote button in the Reply toolbar. Used to drop in the quote tags.

see?

 

[cb911]

ohhh....

it would be alot easier if you could select the post you wanted to quote as you read through the thread.. and then if they just came up in the quote tags when you hit Post Reply. otherwise you've gotta hit the Quote button and then you've gotta copy&paste then type the users name etc - it is a bit of a hassle...

 

[bousozoku]

ohhh....

it would be alot easier if you could select the post you wanted to quote as you read through the thread.. and then if they just came up in the quote tags when you hit Post Reply. otherwise you've gotta hit the Quote button and then you've gotta copy&paste then type the users name etc - it is a bit of a hassle...

Indeed, it is work, but a lot of us go through that work to comply with the posting rules.

I usually end up using TextEdit and paste everything up until clicking Quote the final time and then arrange all of that. It's not that difficult.

 

[EricNau]

No more than these 111 posts could have been combined...

Is that a windows? Gasp!

 

[~Shard~]

Is that a windows? Gasp!

Yeah, I was at work at the time, had to make the best of a bad XP situation...

 

[~Shard~]

I agree with most of what you say, however I'll comment specifically on this:

What's wrong with multiple replies to posts anyway? It's going to be the same amount of text for mods to scan, so, what does it matter if quotes are all done in one post or in individual posts?

It will be the same amount of text, however some users like to have long and/or big sigs, which would take up more space when considering multiple posts. Yes, a minor, trivial little detail, but thought I'd mention it anyway....

And yes I realize the irony that I just double-posted.

 

[jsw]

This is just my own, personal opinion, but, expecting members to go to such lengths as using multiple tabs or TextEdit to compose a multi-quoted post seems a little much.
...

I completely agree.

Additional (shorter) posts, as long as they aren't spam, add no appreciable overhead and make for easier reading.

 

[bousozoku]

I'd much rather see the occasional double post that reflects serious thought on two separate yet related topics than see the thousands of "I agree" "Cool" "" response that crop up.

If we're going to go through the forums culling for this type of supposed double-post, then while we're at it let's delete every post less that 4 words.

Do you report them?

 

[Lacero]

Away with sigs!

I have them turned off simply because it adds too much clutter. If I am interested in a poster, I'll check out his/her profile, and the sig is there.

No need to have it repeated on every single post.

 

[Melkor]

I can't believe the amount of people that double post in this forum. I always find it so rude

Seriously though, why do you guys do it?

 

[EricNau]

I can't believe the amount of people that double post in this forum. I always find it so rude

Seriously though, why do you guys do it?

Why do we double post, or why are we being rude and double posting in this thread about double posting?

I double post because (1) it's easier for me to write, and (2) I find it easier to read also.

I was being "rude" (as you call it) mainly because of habit. (and the reasons I have above)

 

[jsw]

...however some users like to have long and/or big sigs, which would take up more space when considering multiple posts....

Would someone please care to enlighten me as to why the scrollbar/down arrows cannot be used to scroll past such "egregious" uses of space (which could be as much as - my God - an inch of screen real estate or so) when one must move through additional posts? Or, more precisely, why such use of scrollbars/down arrows is too laborious? It's hard for me to grasp the concept of "wasting space" when, essentially, an infinite amount of room is available.

BTW, I find the definition of egregious to be humorous, in a way similar to that of cleave:

e•gre•gious
adjective
1 outstandingly bad; shocking : egregious abuses of copyright.
2 archaic remarkably good.

 

[OutThere]

What do you mean by "double post?" Posting the same thing twice or someone posting two different posts?

Do the admins of this board really want to encourage members to post less instead of more? That seems to go against the desire to have an active and large online community. The more posts, the more pageviews, the more ad sales, the higher page ranking, etc.

But it seems like this bill has become law, because it's being enforced in the "GayWay" thread.

Yes, in fact, they'd rather have us post somewhat less...I mean it's not necessary to have tons of crap to filter through to find anything worthwhile to read (though we and the mods are especially good at removing it/censoring ourselves-better than some other forums). If every single post had a valid argument/idea/comment then there would be significantly fewer posts, but the forums would be much more streamlined. I typically try to only post when I have something worthwhile to put into a discussion. Believe it or not, the site isn't entirely focused on page views/ad sales, it was made by people with a passion for Macs for people who have a passion for Macs, and is supported by people who have developed a passion for the site (Contributors/Demis) and advertising...last I heard the site was breaking even.

An active community is about the quality of the discussion not the quantity of posts it contains.

 

[840quadra]

I've noticed it a lot lately, too, as if some people are hurrying toward an avatar. Even those who are quite experienced still double-post rather than take the time to combine their responses.

You may have seen "posts next to each other" in the edit information of various posts lately. I've been combining those which can be combined.

It just seems that if people are in such a hurry that you have to make 3 posts in 3 minutes, those people probably aren't saying much.

I have an avatar and tend to do this quite a bit, more by accident then as a way to increase my post count. Personally I don't really see that this is that big of an issue. I moderate multiple forums and this is quite common, and is such a low issue when compared to other types of activities posters can get involved with. However, I will respect the wishes of the Moderating and Administrative team running the site I am visiting regardless of what my opinion is in regards to the rules .

Sorry for having you edit so many of my past posts bousozoku . It isn't intentional, as I often see a post AFTER i replied to an other, and as opposed to editing my previous post, I do a quick quote and reply. The new inline editing should make my being lazy less of an issue overall.

::EDIT::

This is just my own, personal opinion, but, expecting members to go to such lengths as using multiple tabs or TextEdit to compose a multi-quoted post seems a little much.

Well said,

Well, I am trying to follow the rules while replying to your post and bousozoku's.

Come to think of it, I tend to reply before reading the entire thread in most cases. I need help

 

[~Shard~]

Would someone please care to enlighten me as to why the scrollbar/down arrows cannot be used to scroll past such "egregious" uses of space (which could be as much as - my God - an inch of screen real estate or so) when one must move through additional posts? Or, more precisely, why such use of scrollbars/down arrows is too laborious? It's hard for me to grasp the concept of "wasting space" when, essentially, an infinite amount of room is available.

I never said it was a hassle or a huge inconvenience - just pointing it out, for what it's worth...

 

[EricNau]

Just to let you all know, I'll consider this when posting from now on, so your thread wasn't entirely a waste, as I did learn something (I had know idea it wasn't proper to have two posts in a row).

That said...
If I for some reason decide to "double post" please leave it that way.

 

[mad jew]

But it seems like this bill has become law, because it's being enforced in the "GayWay" thread.

1. This wasn't meant as a bill.
2. Technically speaking, it's already a law, of sorts.
3. That GayWay thread is almost unreadable because of this very problem. It's a page of one member followed by a page of another... More than three posts in a row by the same member is wrong and should be punishable by transportation to the farthest colony.
4. IMO, one really shouldn't post without having read the entire thread, meaning that double posts should be pretty rare in circumstances other than replying to two different subjects.

 

[840quadra]

1. This wasn't meant as a bill.
2. Technically speaking, it's already a law, of sorts.
3. That GayWay thread is almost unreadable because of this very problem. It's a page of one member followed by a page of another... More than three posts in a row by the same member is wrong and should be punishable by transportation to the farthest colony.
4. IMO, one really shouldn't post without having read the entire thread, meaning that double posts should be pretty rare in circumstances other than replying to two different subjects.

I agree with all but #4. In many cases reading every post on a huge thread really isn't needed, nor practical. In most cases people reply to one person, or a small group within large threads as opposed to the entire thread. Granted this SHOULD be done with the PM system, but in most cases the post is to contribute to a debate or to add more thoughts for such topic. The topics on here also tend to segway as a group, and usually only require reading the last 2 pages to be up to speed on the current topic.

However, as stated before. It is best to follow the rules provided by the Moderators or Mdministrators of the site you are visiting.

 

[emw]

Do you report them?

Of course not - I was being sarcastic, especially about the 4-word limit (which would mean I wouldn't have seen your response ). From my standpoint, reporting posts should be left for when something is really wrong, such as:

1. Spam (as in "Win a free iPod")

2. Insulting (as in "emw is a jerk and should just get the heck out of these forums")

3. Inappropriate content (as in strong sexual - either text or images)

I would hazard a guess that most people who post more than once (technically "multiple posts" vs. "double posts") when responding to multiple previous posts are not in some way attempting to increase their post count. In fact, this is generally done by members who are either well above the avatar range, or long-term members who happened to go through a "post spurt", or even demis, who really don't give a crap about post counts in general.

There are so many ways to increase post count that don't involve stringing together responses. One of which is to post excessively in threads complaining about multiple posts.