This app crashed the first time I ran it. And it does look just like iTunes in many, many ways. I appreciate the effort at providing choice to what devices you play your music on, but try to be original, don't just copy iTunes.
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DoubleTwist Launches iTunes-Like Desktop Application for Amazon MP3 Store
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dukebound85
macrumors Core
or the people at DT know everyone and their mom has itunes so they tried to emulate the program but also add more functionality to it
think of gimp/gimpshop vs photoshop or openoffice to MS office
they emulate as they know what people are familiar with
i for one appreciate it
once zune support is included, i will be very happy
ungraphic
macrumors 6502a
Probably not.
My copy of doubletwist has been running from since i got it back in april. Works great. Love how it syncs with my non-apple devices (and i got many).
inkswamp
macrumors 68030
And, like the Xerox example, Apple added a ton of new ideas to it that they are infrequently given credit for. They didn't just take someone else's idea and run with it as-is. Did you ever use the original SoundJam yourself? I did, and iTunes is vastly different, despite using some of the same code. Apple added a massive amount of new features to SoundJam.
And in case you think I'm kidding about the Xerox example, read here and here.
MacSince1990
macrumors 65816
For all the selective history buffs in this thread, this is how much iTunes was a copy of SoundJam.
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Um... this is a joke right?
OS X has a Unix core, right? No one ever said they had to look alike. I modded my original iTunes so it looked drastically different (2.0.4 in OS 9); does that mean I have a new version of iTunes I made myself? No. The code is identical, I didn't touch it.
This was silly.
inkswamp
macrumors 68030
What's silly is you defeat your own argument by taking this to the code level. Apple used SoundJam as a starting point for iTunes. That means, iTunes 1.0 was not the same code as SJ. They shared code, but they were not identical in terms of code.
You just argued against yourself. I find it strangely fascinating to watch you defeat your own points. 😀
silentnite
macrumors 6502a
Hey! I'll give em some credit, at least their trying. I have to say it looks really nice. although I'm sure I've seen something just like this before. 😕
Note: To Twist beware of palm pre. If they like it your in trouble. 😀
Note: To Twist beware of palm pre. If they like it your in trouble. 😀
MacSince1990
macrumors 65816
No, I didn't. The original point I was responding to was "Apple gets it right the first time," but actually Apple based their product on SoundJam.
Sure, DT is clearly an iTunes rip-off, I was merely pointing out that Apple did the same thing. Sure they did it legally, but that's not the point I'm making.
Understand?
Roessnakhan
macrumors 68040
This program looks very promising. The day an Android device really wins me over (HTC Hero almost did), I get fed up with AT&T, or my contract ends I'll be looking to this puppy to sync my new phone.
ungraphic
macrumors 6502a
It is not an iTunes ripoff.
I'm so tired of this ignorant statement. It is a peice of software that acts 'like' iTunes to bring forth proper syncing capabilities to devices on OS X that are not iPods (because, as mentioned earlier, not all of us want a limiting dap/pmp device!).
Aesthetically speaking, yes, it features a similar layout. It is, however, FAR from being a total knockoff. Did you cry the same rhetoric when apple blatantly ripped off Creative's hierarchical navigation, which lead to a lawsuit that Apple basically lost? No? What about when Apple bought out the guys behind Coverflow and put it into OS X and iTunes? Did you have any complaints then? No? What about the whole Soundjam deal? No complaints there either, I suppose, right?
You people are acting as if iTunes is the holy grail of device management. IT IS NOT. It is far from it, and it only works with iPods. You people also CLEARLY do not accept the fact that there are other mp3 players that exist beyond the iPod world.
God, I cannot believe how dense some of you are.
Thank you!! Just because something looks similar to iTunes doesn't mean it's a ripoff and just because it's not owned by Apple doesn't mean it sucks. Jeepers.
MacSince1990
macrumors 65816
*Blinks* When did I ever say it sucked?
And you're right. I misspoke. I didn't really mean "rip-off," I meant it's clearly inspired by iTunes.
Um... I've been talking about Apple taking creative licenses in this whole thread.. specifically with SoundJam. I don't like it when Apple does it... it bothers me less when other 3rd-parties do it to Apple.
I didn't like it when Apple ripped off Kaleidoscope, either.... not to mention the 12 trillion other products they've assimilated. They're the Romans of software... lol =P
My comment wasn't aimed towards you directly 😉
Now if you want a complete iTunes ripoff, look at Songbird.
Now if you want a complete iTunes ripoff, look at Songbird.
ungraphic
macrumors 6502a
Far from it, for a number of reasons;
-based on Mozilla open source code (main reason)
-allows for add-ons
-features a full-scale web browser
-device management for various devices
-completely different UI, yet you guys complain about doubleTwists so called 'ripping off' ??
I like where Songbird is headed, but it uses more RAM than iTunes, and doesnt support any of the devices i own, and thats mainly because the Mac OS X version doest get all the add-ons as the windows counterpart does. Good software, but has a bit more to go before it gets to the 'iTunes' level.
John.B
macrumors 601
I was in complete disagreement with you, but your clever user of a single sentence in an embiggened 28pt Helvetica Black font magically swayed me to your side. 😉
The obvious difference is that Creative, Steel Skies, and Casady & Greene were all paid for their intellectual property. I know, such a minor point, but it somehow seemed germane to the discussion. 😛
dukebound85
macrumors Core
Why? There have been many other media players before and there are others today. Apple doesnt care about them really. The only Apple player support is the iPod (on Windows) and older iPhones (2.0 firmware - in other words no 3GS - again Windows only). Apple is pretty confident that most people using Apple media players are already using iTunes. DoubleTwist has a long road ahead of them to affect Apples halo with their own products. Doesnt matter much since this seems to be mostly targeted for other devices - and it only does music, videos, and maybe photos.
Further to my 'it needs to work with my iTunes library and iPhone' comment - Does it do podcasts? If Double Twist doesn't do podcasts, at least as well as iTunes, it's a total bust for me.
Is there something you need to download from Cydia to get it to recognize? My iphone is jailbroken on 3.0 and it won't recognize it.
Doubletwist says it only supports software 2.0.
chevyorange
macrumors member
iTunes Sucks Comments? Really?
I have 3 iPods and an iPhone... 100GB of music, who knows how many of movies and podcasts and iTunes has worked like a dream for me. I have helped friends set up vast amounts of different software on different platforms (minus Zune and its sandbox, I dont know anyone that has one). I have read much about the Zune software though, and it appears good.
That being said, I have not run across anything BETTER than iTunes - and many that are in the ballpark or much, much worse.
I guess Im wondering what people want out of iTunes that they feel it is lacking? Other than, of course, making it work with every single device in the world!
Anyway, Ill be interested in seeing what DT does to the market... but I am one of those that thinks it it is lacking in originality and more of a copy of iTunes than an homage!
I have 3 iPods and an iPhone... 100GB of music, who knows how many of movies and podcasts and iTunes has worked like a dream for me. I have helped friends set up vast amounts of different software on different platforms (minus Zune and its sandbox, I dont know anyone that has one). I have read much about the Zune software though, and it appears good.
That being said, I have not run across anything BETTER than iTunes - and many that are in the ballpark or much, much worse.
I guess Im wondering what people want out of iTunes that they feel it is lacking? Other than, of course, making it work with every single device in the world!
Anyway, Ill be interested in seeing what DT does to the market... but I am one of those that thinks it it is lacking in originality and more of a copy of iTunes than an homage!