Apple is nowhere near a monopoly. They have, what, 10% of the smartphone market and 5% of the PC market?
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Dozens of Adult Content and Gambling Apps Found Abusing Apple's Enterprise Certificate Program
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Apple is nowhere near a monopoly. They have, what, 10% of the smartphone market and 5% of the PC market?
Yet, Apple manages to get the taxes it collects correct, city by city, county by county, country by country, continent by continent, etc. And taxes are much more complicated. So it is not nonsense to those that actually know how it works and how it could be done.
It's wrong when people make baseless comments and misuse the word monopoly when clearly does not apply.
Without any religious agenda, I must say I completely support Apple's refusal to allow pornography and other nefarious themes through their services. There's nothing to stop folks from accessing nearly anything from their web browser, but our media culture is so saturated with sex/gambling/violence, we're possibly in danger of being consumed by it. There's no shame in standing firm on principle (even if that principle also makes you a more attractive company – think how Apple's reputation would be tarnished if they allowed adult content on their stores).
"I guess this is just another lost cause, Mr. Paine. All you people don't know about lost causes. Mr. Paine does. He said once they were the only causes worth fighting for, and he fought for them once, for the only reason any man ever fights for them: Because of one plain simple rule: Love thy neighbor. And in this world today, full of hatred, a man who knows that one rule has a great trust."
(Mr. Smith Goes to Washington)
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That's ok; since NOBODY likes to actually PAY for Android Apps, --profit if you develop for Android.
Notice that Google never crows about how much it has paid to Developers from it's Play Store, even though they take the very same cut as Apple does.
Why? Because the "total" is likely pretty embarrassing relative to the Apple App Store.
So, cut your nose off to spite your face; we'll all be here laughing... and cashing our checks!
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Oh, yeah, like a software FLAG would stop anyone over the age of... ZERO.
Sorry, sounds like a great idea, and I'm sure that very thing has been bandied-about in the spaceship many a time. But it just wouldn't work in the real world.
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I'm pretty sure they were trying to keep all the Script-Kiddies out is all, without making it a ridiculous cash-grab.
Can you IMAGINE the howls if Apple charged $50k for an EAC? OMG!!!!!!!
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Why does this "Diminsh the value of the whole App Store ecosystem"?
I think that Apple knew that some abuse would take place; and that all they could reasonably hope to do was keep the stuff out of their official App Store (which they have done pretty much perfectly).
I think that people need to stop whining and realize that they, as consumers, now have the best of both worlds. You can safely download an App from the App Store and hand your phone/pad to your 6 year-old; but for those who just GOTTA have "those" Apps, they are Available, but since they are not part of the "App Store ecosystem", Apple can simply disavow any responsibility for them.
Or would you really rather have Apple go on a Scorched-Earth Search and Destroy of all the companies Abusing the EAC program?
If they did that, just WATCH as the Anti-Apple articles accuse them of being "The Morals Police" (even more than they claim already)...
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Essentially correct. Been that way since iOS 8, at least, maybe earlier.
MOST brick-and-mortar stores choose not to sell pornography.
What you are asking is the equivalent of asking that supermarkets be forced to sell pornography, or suggesting that they are somehow restricting your freedom by not selling pornography, and perhaps people should boycott them for being such meanies. In order to be "fair", you suggest that they should charge $1 for admission to the special, sleazy section.
They do that, I WILL start using the wipes before handling the carts!
to me 5 percent smartpone and 1percent pc market. If you count non latest phone up 2 7 percent. The reason -profit if wanted to develop on it.
Without any religious agenda, I must say I completely support Apple's refusal to allow pornography and other nefarious themes through their services. There's nothing to stop folks from accessing nearly anything from their web browser, but our media culture is so saturated with sex/gambling/violence, we're possibly in danger of being consumed by it. There's no shame in standing firm on principle (even if that principle also makes you a more attractive company – think how Apple's reputation would be tarnished if they allowed adult content on their stores).
"I guess this is just another lost cause, Mr. Paine. All you people don't know about lost causes. Mr. Paine does. He said once they were the only causes worth fighting for, and he fought for them once, for the only reason any man ever fights for them: Because of one plain simple rule: Love thy neighbor. And in this world today, full of hatred, a man who knows that one rule has a great trust."
(Mr. Smith Goes to Washington)
Without any religious agenda, I must say I completely support Apple's refusal to allow pornography and other nefarious themes through their services. There's nothing to stop folks from accessing nearly anything from their web browser, but our media culture is so saturated with sex/gambling/violence, we're possibly in danger of being consumed by it. There's no shame in standing firm on principle (even if that principle also makes you a more attractive company – think how Apple's reputation would be tarnished if they allowed adult content on their stores).
"I guess this is just another lost cause, Mr. Paine. All you people don't know about lost causes. Mr. Paine does. He said once they were the only causes worth fighting for, and he fought for them once, for the only reason any man ever fights for them: Because of one plain simple rule: Love thy neighbor. And in this world today, full of hatred, a man who knows that one rule has a great trust."
(Mr. Smith Goes to Washington)
It's hard for Apple to claim they value individuality and privacy whilst they make moral judgements. Nobody blames Google for they fact you can search or get whatever you want and this is not really any different.
I am not entirely clear on this... but do all enterprise companies need a certfication program? My company's apps are available on the general app store and does authentication at the back end to use. I suppose the certification is required to allow apps like intune to manage devices? And if an organization is ok to pay a hefty sum for mobile management software, would they pay, say 50k the way the previous poster noted, for the cert program as well? More importantly, would 50k be a deterrent for this illegal gambling and porn app peddlers, if they end up earning hundreds of thousands of dollars with the certification?
From apple's perspective, I don't think this 299 USD is a revenue stream. The program exists to give enterprises a mechanism to encourage people to use iPhones, and that's the end of it. They obviously did not imagine a scenario in which it would get abused. (Or they did, and just thought "only a small %age" of people are affected by it.)
1 grand for iphone ..? I don't even think encourage at all. Most whom bought here because of telco contract.
The ease of 299 was easy to patch without to thinking to upload to apple store .Even uploading new thing in google play also take few hours before publish to all country.It is not abuse but problem on distribution if patches..
A lot of company didn't knew the base cost of development ios application at all. Some even think got 1 iphone and macbook is enough and some thinking normal pc also can do iphone apps..
Apple is a bit of a hypocrite. While exhibiting dedication to keeping the App Store pure, they have no issue making money off non-family friendly fare on iTunes.
Not advocating for a Wild West App Store full of hardcore porn, but is nudity worse than songs laden with profanity, misogyny, and the like? Guess I’d rather my kid see a pair of breasts than download some of the songs Apple happy to collect money for on iTunes...
Not advocating for a Wild West App Store full of hardcore porn, but is nudity worse than songs laden with profanity, misogyny, and the like? Guess I’d rather my kid see a pair of breasts than download some of the songs Apple happy to collect money for on iTunes...
I kind of see your point, but the problem is that the buys knows going in what he is getting: a closed system. Android offers many many other options to choose from that are not closed, which is why apple doesn’t have a monopoly at all. I can’t update the software on my car, even if it’s horrible, but I sure can avoid buying a car with horrible software.
Tech and software are just different from any other market, the fact that apple doesn’t allow third party stores and OS’s is not a crime, it’s just part of the product they offer. Take it or leave it, no one is making anyone buy apple
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Your points are all valid in the discussion of public domains, but there is no such thing as freedom of speech in a private place like the apple store. Apple has no obligation to stand up for anyone or anything in their app store
Pornography and gambling apps involving real money are not allowed on the App Store.
That's not entirely true. Gambling has been legal in NJ for quite some time and there are many iOS apps available for download in the App Store that allow for real gambling. Perhaps you meant gambling apps are not allowed Apple's Enterprise Certificate Program?
MOST brick-and-mortar stores choose not to sell pornography.
What you are asking is the equivalent of asking that supermarkets be forced to sell pornography, or suggesting that they are somehow restricting your freedom by not selling pornography, and perhaps people should boycott them for being such meanies. In order to be "fair", you suggest that they should charge $1 for admission to the special, sleazy section.
They do that, I WILL start using the wipes before handling the carts!
No. The correct analogy is disallowing my scanner from scanning porn because it reflects on the manufacture or the scanner. I paid for the phone, I should be able to put the content on it I want. If Apple wants to keep the content out of the Apple store, then let me install my own software. Otherwise they need to allow it in the store. Remember it is MY device, or is supposed to be.
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No the point is the iPhone is MY device, period. I bought it. Apple has no right to restrict what software I install on it. If Apple wants to keep the App Store so locked down, fine. Just let me install the apps I want outside of the App Store. Simple and clean.
You bought the wrong device. Buy an Android device. You have a choice. You knew what you were buying when you bought it.
Exercise the power you have in the free market.
Good luck getting the malware/viruses off of your new Android device!
Apple uses this as a differentiator. They've done the math. They wouldn't be doing it if it didn't have a benefit to their bottom line. Apple has a series of differentiators that are clear as day.
Security, privacy, relative freedom from scamation, a high level of trust in downloaded apps.
Vs. the wild, wild west.
Aside from any moral judgements that Apple may or may not be making, it is a FACT that the types of content that are banned are associated with a MUCH higher level of skulduggery on the part of: advertisers, hackers (who might hack into backend servers, or even unwittingly hack the app source code itself... some companies are stupid enough!), or even the site/app owners themselves. Part of the reason for this is that consumers of these sorts of content are often in a position to easily blackmail, will readily give up some cash to avoid public disclosure. Not saying this is the AVERAGE consumer, but you will have a higher than normal percentage of consumers who e.g. have a gambling addiction, are fearful of disclosure to a spouse, etc. etc. etc.
From a business standpoint, it makes sense for Apple to steer clear and not get in the middle of this.
You can view anything you want in Safari, and to boot, Safari offers a high level of resistance to the scams/data theft/hacks that many of those sites that offer the content you'd like to be available in apps are trying to pull on you.
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