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driver shoots cyclist in the head for having a kid with him

^^ +1 - exactly what I thought ;)

Back to the story.... indeed there must be more to this. The firefighter thought the road was too busy to be riding a bicycle with a child, so he SHOT the father?! That doesn't even make any sense. Thank goodness for the helmet. And how horrible for the wife and child to witness this as well. I wonder - was the shooter in his own vehicle, walking down the road? Craziness...
 
Wow, that firefighter is a complete nutjob. I hope he is convicted and sent to prison for a long time.
 
That is disturbing.

Also, disturbing is the fact that the fire fighter got paid leave time while it's being investigated.

So much for the local Fire Depot. being a community role model.
 
killerrobot said:
That is disturbing.

Also, disturbing is the fact that the fire fighter got paid leave time while it's being investigated.

So much for the local Fire Depot. being a community role model.
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Still innocent until sentenced guilty. Even with all the evidence against the guy he is still to be treated as innocent but expected guilty.
Once he has a trial the pay stops and he goes to jail for a long hard think, and his assets are arrested that way were not victimising him and the trial is fair and just.
 
Wow, this is sparta. He'd have to have a lot of bullets if he came down to the Netherlands, too. It's not out of the ordinary to see a mother cycling with two children on the bike (one on a front seat, one in back seat), while holding an umbrella with one hand.
 
killerrobot said:
That is disturbing.

Also, disturbing is the fact that the fire fighter got paid leave time while it's being investigated.

So much for the local Fire Depot. being a community role model.
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The interesting part about it being paid leave, is that I assume the fire fighter was off duty - there is no mention of him being in an official car - and the article said that he has "now" been identified as a firefighter. Meaning he must have been acting as a private citizen when he shot the guy - why does he get paid administrative leave for that? I work for a local government myself - if I were arrested in my off-hours I would be placed on unpaid leave, not "adminstrative leave" :confused:
 
Sijmen said:
Wow, this is sparta. He'd have to have a lot of bullets if he came down to the Netherlands, too. It's not out of the ordinary to see a mother cycling with two children on the bike (one on a front seat, one in back seat), while holding an umbrella with one hand.
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Yeah, but both drivers and cyclists in the Netherlands are used to it. I pass through Amsterdam a couple times a year and I never get used to seeing a well dressed woman, high heels and everything, bicycle by.

killerrobot said:
That is disturbing.

So much for the local Fire Depot. being a community role model.
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Hah. I don't know about Asheville, but IME, some small town fire departments in the South are among the most corrupt organizations I have ever worked with.
 
spaceboots06 said:
WTF. That's nutty. I do NOT want to move to Asheville.
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Hey - I grew up in Asheville and have lived all over. Great place to live (look up the rankings). I have yet to live ANYWHERE there have not been nut jobs. That having been said, I agree...WTF?
 
Eraserhead said:
A bullet may be fast, but its not very big so doesn't have much force/momentum. Things like cigarette lighters and bibles have been known to stop bullets too.
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And most of those cigarette lighter and bible stories are unconfirmed urban legend.

A bicycle helmet is essentially a light plastic cover over styrofoam. It's meant to absorb, then the force of an impact. They're good for when your head collides with the tarmac. They're not good for small, hard, fast things. You can take an ice pick or a knife and poke holes directly through most bike helmets with very little force. It simply doesn't have the structure to stop a bullet.

And yes, light, high velocity bullets are easily deflected but I presume this was a pistol round - slower, heavier and LESS likely to be deflected off of a semi rigid object in this type of scenario.
 
Wow

Did you guys even read the article. The helmet did NOT stop the bullet. The bullet merely went through the helmet without hitting him, it "grazed" the helmet, penetrating the shell.

"...bullet penetrated the outer lining of the helmet but did not actually hit the victim..."


That being said, a bullet, even from a 22, will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS go through ANY bike helmet. The guy simply missed.



On another note, I experienced some roag rage vs bike the other day. My friend and I were riding our bikes home from the gettin' place, down a commercial block. (On commercial roads, its ILLEGAL to do anything but walk in a sideWALK) We were on bike, going with the flow of traffic. Some girl started honking and screaming at us, to "GET OUT OF THE F'IN ROAD, GET ON THE SIDEWALK" like we were a huge inconvenience. I turned around and not-too-politely hollered back "Its illegal, handle it!."

A block or two later, she zooms by, and sprays a jet of MACE at us, as we were biking under a freeway bridge, with cars whizzing by going 30!! Luckily she did not hit us, and I got her plate number and filed an assault report. Hope that moron got some jailtime.
 
MattSepeta said:
Did you guys even read the article. The helmet did NOT stop the bullet. The bullet merely went through the helmet without hitting him, it "grazed" the helmet, penetrating the shell.

"...bullet penetrated the outer lining of the helmet but did not actually hit the victim..."


That being said, a bullet, even from a 22, will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS go through ANY bike helmet. The guy simply missed.



On another note, I experienced some roag rage vs bike the other day. My friend and I were riding our bikes home from the gettin' place, down a commercial block. (On commercial roads, its ILLEGAL to do anything but walk in a sideWALK) We were on bike, going with the flow of traffic. Some girl started honking and screaming at us, to "GET OUT OF THE F'IN ROAD, GET ON THE SIDEWALK" like we were a huge inconvenience. I turned around and not-too-politely hollered back "Its illegal, handle it!."

A block or two later, she zooms by, and sprays a jet of MACE at us, as we were biking under a freeway bridge, with cars whizzing by going 30!! Luckily she did not hit us, and I got her plate number and filed an assault report. Hope that moron got some jailtime.
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good for you on calling the cops. needless to say something was wrong with her. mace? on bicycle riders? brutal.
 
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