Indeed. Apple has iCould, they have their Billion $ server farm (with more on the way), they own the infrastructure. With that kind of competition, you either beat them or you join them.
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Dropbox Indeed Balked at Major Acquisition Offer from Apple
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Indeed. Apple has iCould, they have their Billion $ server farm (with more on the way), they own the infrastructure. With that kind of competition, you either beat them or you join them.
1Password doesn't support iCloud yet, but they're looking into it. http://blog.agilebits.com/2011/10/on-1password-and-icloud/
50 million users. The numbers are all in the article linked in the first post.
I'm surprised no one mentioned the big security breach that occurred a few months back leaving all Dropbox accounts exposed:
http://open.salon.com/blog/catherin...ecurity_nightmare_25_million_accounts_exposed
That pretty much killed my faith in using them to store any private data of mine.
http://open.salon.com/blog/catherin...ecurity_nightmare_25_million_accounts_exposed
That pretty much killed my faith in using them to store any private data of mine.
If they would actually increase their 20$/month 100GB plan to 200GB, I would replace my mozy backup with Dropbox.
FYI: I know crashplan is cheaper and unlimited, I'm just being lazy in moving my backups.
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Backup and sync are different. AgileBits hasn't released an iCloud SYNC yet, unless I missed something...
Backup and sync are different. AgileBits hasn't released an iCloud SYNC yet, unless I missed something...
I would have taken the money and ran away laughing. Apple is just going to mirror their MO, and move to a point of independence in all things cloud.
I agree with this. Siri was only improved by Apple's acquisition, and greatly so. The level of integration is staggering, and it went from a mediocre voice activation/dictation app to something far more polished and useful feature-wise.
I think it is different with Dropbox though. I'm very glad they were not acquired. Dropbox is a completely different service from iCloud. It is a platform agnostic TRUE cloud storage solution with productivity for the user front and center. I would hate to have seen them purchased for their brain trust just to make Apple's awesome, but limited and different iCloud service even better.
Apple made Siri better at what Siri was trying to do. Apple would (likely) have killed Dropbox to make a different product (iCloud) better, and we would be out one amazing service.
As an aside, I use Dropbox for business. As a project manager, I keep every active job I have going in a Dropbox folder so that I can access all the specs, documentation, and quotes from anywhere, -on my Mac or iPhone, my Windows machine at work, or any computer in the world with an internet connection. It's quick, easy to use, and just works. It is a lifesaver, and easily the most valuable productivity app I use outside of the basic Office Suite of software. From accessing and storing ANY file type, to sharing resources with other stakeholders, iCloud simply does not do what Dropbox does. Not even close.
They are both great products, but I don't blame Dropbox for turning Steve down. They have a lot more to offer than what Apple was going to use them for imho. Cloud storage can be both a feature and an service depending on who is implementing it and why...
I agree. DropBox is good for small things. SugarSync lets you do much more with your files, especially if you are on a computer without the ability to load the client, by using their web interface.
I use both, but SugarSync also gives you more free space and is cheaper to buy more space.
If you live in a Mac only world then go ahead and only use iCloud, if you switch between Mac and PC iCLoud doesn't cut it in the business world.
IMHO Jobs wanted to buy out the competition and kill it. He was also probably not used to young punks (like he used to be) telling him to pound sand after offering that much money.
Competition is good, people!
Drop who?
Honestly, I never heard of drop box until i saw this posting. After reading article, dropbox guys seem like they think they are equal to Jobs, which they aren't.
iCloud all the way.
Honestly, I never heard of drop box until i saw this posting. After reading article, dropbox guys seem like they think they are equal to Jobs, which they aren't.
iCloud all the way.
Just paraphrasing your argument.
Again: Vendor lock-in, rings a bell...
Personally, I doubt iCloud can ever make as much damage as IE6 did.
Nothing against Dropbox though;
Market share definitely is one way to measure success/dominance.
Another one is 'whom is every other player in the industry following/looking up to/trying to imitate?'
Please tell me you're not playing the 'fanboi' card...
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Oh my god, I'm becoming one of those "yes you did - no I ddn't" guys. I call quits
I use MobileMe and iDisk, I also have a dropbox account.
iDisk is like a Dropbox
What does Dropbox have that iDisk doesn't?
But
There so much thing MobileMe can do that Dropbox can't
- sync all my password
- sync all my desktop pref.
Sync all kind of stuff.
I can go on any Mac, login with my MobileMe account and feel just like at home.
No mail configuration, bookmark password etc to do, it's all there.
Or you can use Back to my Mac...
I can add a contact in my iPhone and see it arrive in addressbook on my Mac a few second later.
Yes iCloud has fewer service than MobileMe but it feel like it is not there.
That's the main goal of iCloud, having nothing to do. Not to think about it...
IDisk is on the way out, and now I started to use Dropbox, but there is so much Dropbox can't do.
But you know more than me about dropbox, I would really appreciate if you could tell me what I can do with DropBox that I can't do with MobileMe.
I would really like to be able to do with dropbox stuff that i used to be able to do with MobileMe.
Thank you
Doesn't matter. Apple won't cater to the non iOS devices and operating systems. As long as Apple remains closed - there will always be room for competition
I agree with you about Dropbox. But as for Siri - I think Apple did GREAT with INTEGRATION of Siri. But Siri itself didn't really change that much since it was a stand alone app. I am sure they tweaked and created a greater library of responses. But the "magic" lies in the integration with iOS. If Apple had allowed Siri (when it was independent) and other developers access to various APIs only allowed for Apple, then it would have been/could have been just as good.
Not negating Apple's implementation. I'm just saying - you have to give Siri more credit for their App. It was already very useful, polished, etc....
This is a mischievous statement. It does not even make any sense. So being in a physical room at Dropbox's headquarters is going to give Jobs intelligence about their operations. And the final 'Jobs went silent' is unnecessarily suggestive that the main purpose of Jobs wanting a meeting is to spy on Dropbox.. Come on! What is the world of tech journalism coming to?
Disagree. Apple doesn't allow other companies to fully integrate with the OS. That is part of the 'walled garden' effect, and also what gives magic to iOS. Siri is now part of the OS and adding new functionality is limitless. I can't wait for Siri 2.0!
Dropbox is a great service, very applauded and loved by many. Please check it out before dismissing it, although perhaps it's not suited to your needs.
I work using mostly production apps. There's no point in accessing my 'files' on a mobile device (what would I do with an Xcode project? Or a Photoshop file?) and I seldom bring work home; but when I do AFP is more than enough (we store/share our files through a Mac OS X server with its own IP address)
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