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Dropbox Planning to Add Native Apple Silicon Support to Mac App in First Half of 2022 [Updated]
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So potentially another eight months.Hardly a priority for Dropbox, then.
Exactly.
And it's been 11 months since the first M1 Macs were released... way back in November 2020.
But hey... at least they're thinkin' about it... now...
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Dropbox went the way of Evernote for me. Not missed it in the slightest, plenty of other options out there and far better value too.
I tried OneDrive when I first got office, but it never did seem to sync reliably for me. iCloud was even more unstable at the time, so I went back to Dropbox.
Hmm, maybe it’s time to give OneDrive one more whirl.
That will make two years between when the Apple silicon was announced and when dropbox releases a native version. A tweet won't change that this is shockingly bad. Dropbox is the only non native software I have on my machine and I would have thought it would have been the first to get on it. They really dropped the box.
OneDrive is a total pig when it first starts up - an unresponsive mess. You just need to cross your fingers and leave it to finish synching. Once that's done, it's fine, and operates as it should. I assume this will be fixed when it goes to Apple Silicon.
Seriously, cloud storage is the only serious Dropbox inc. product. Still they haven’t managed to deliver a client app in time. Both Google and Microsoft have released their optimised cloud storage clients but Dropbox customers should wait aprox 8 months for a client.
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Seriously, cloud storage is the only serious Dropbox inc. product. Still they haven’t managed to deliver a client app in time. Both Google and Microsoft have released their optimised cloud storage clients but Dropbox customers should wait aprox 8 months for a client.
This is not a financial advise but getting rid of any DBX stock right now might not be the the worst idea.
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Apple users are the small fraction of worldwide desktop OS users, and ARM users are the small fraction of Apple users.
Doesn’t really matter. Cloud storage is the only Dropbox Inc. product. Still, their competition has managed to deliver M1 optimised products. Dropbox is unable to deliver a product in time even though they specialise in this segment. This is general reflects their ability to adapt and meet new challenges. They should be first out of the gates but it seems they are last and failing miserably.
COVID has done wonders Dropbox Inc. (DBX) stock but their party will be called coming to an end.
Apple users also spend the most and are generally the most affluent. That's why so many developers bother to cater to us at all. We're literally spending 20 bucks on apps like Bartender just to squish icons together.
Ok, let me put it this way: do you think Apple failed miserably and came to an end by letting go their Pro segment of users (6 years without delivering successor to Mac Pro ashtray)?
I'm an Apple user myself for 25 years, but cmon - majority of today Apple customers are casual users, with their phones, watches and stuff, and ICloud and such services are just sufficient for them. They have no use of Dropbox nor its business solutions, and are not interested in it.
I'm an Apple user myself for 25 years, but cmon - majority of today Apple customers are casual users, with their phones, watches and stuff, and ICloud and such services are just sufficient for them. They have no use of Dropbox nor its business solutions, and are not interested in it.
Not really an applicable comparison. They have the iPhone to prop up all other segments of their business (if they were to falter in other areas).
But looking at just Mac use, for sure they lost a lot of professional users due to their machines. I personally abstained from purchasing a new Mac between 2016-2019 due to those bad keyboards.
It is applicable in terms of %.
Number of Apple pro users : total Apple users > Dropbox Mac Arm users : total Dropbox users.
And, according to Dropbox CEO, native app develpoment is matter of months, not years.
Number of Apple pro users : total Apple users > Dropbox Mac Arm users : total Dropbox users.
And, according to Dropbox CEO, native app develpoment is matter of months, not years.
I'm not suggesting Dropbox is going to fail because they don't cater to M1 Mac owners. I'm saying Mac users matter money wise because we spend the most and that's why businesses cater to us at all, period.
It's like with the iPhone. Does Apple have the most market share? no. But they take 90% of the profits from the entire phone industry because we spend. That's why our App Store is full of apps, we spend.
I think that is with any company but the say a company will go under just because of Apple and their new silicon chips. It would be different if it was Android OS or Windows in general. And Dropbox in the future will update their software.
Don't trust Apple's marketing on that. From personal experience it can be a lot more work than that *and* it can require dropping support or working around signing issues from Apple's end for older macOS versions. And while I don't use Dropbox, I do see they support Yosemite (10.10). I'd be willing to bet that support is making things a lot more difficult than most non developers realize.Wow. How heavy is that "one switch in the compiler" (to make all Mac apps native)?
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That post was a joke, thus the wink at the end. I'm very well aware that throwing one compiler toggle is unlikely to make applications leap from one hardware platform to a completely different one. Is it possible with some apps? Yes. But most/all? Definitely not.
I suspect that most who slung that, know that... but slung it anyway. Perhaps some were naive enough that seeing it slung so often made them believe the lie... and perhaps start slinging it themselves. I hear that Paul is Dead, Elvis lives and Batboy is real. And I happen to be able to offer anyone a fantastic price to buy the NYC Apple Store, Eiffel Tower or Brooklyn Bridge... really cheap! I guess if one reads it enough times... or perhaps Apple says it just once.
Now here we are well into the change window and there are still MANY important apps not yet native. Apparently Dropbox was singled out for the heat this time. Else, that magic toggle must be HEAVY... or so very, very hard to find.
Question: when did Apple's own very important app- Filemaker Pro- go native? Rhetorical. Apparently Dropbox and many other developers are not the only ones who are either lazy or can't seem to find that magic toggle... or maybe it takes longer than a simple recompile to make important apps "just work."
I suspect that most who slung that, know that... but slung it anyway. Perhaps some were naive enough that seeing it slung so often made them believe the lie... and perhaps start slinging it themselves. I hear that Paul is Dead, Elvis lives and Batboy is real. And I happen to be able to offer anyone a fantastic price to buy the NYC Apple Store, Eiffel Tower or Brooklyn Bridge... really cheap!
I guess if one reads it enough times... or perhaps Apple says it just once.Now here we are well into the change window and there are still MANY important apps not yet native. Apparently Dropbox was singled out for the heat this time. Else, that magic toggle must be HEAVY... or so very, very hard to find.
Question: when did Apple's own very important app- Filemaker Pro- go native? Rhetorical. Apparently Dropbox and many other developers are not the only ones who are either lazy or can't seem to find that magic toggle... or maybe it takes longer than a simple recompile to make important apps "just work."
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Here's what I did to day, in case there's something useful for others in this anecdote.
I moved a copy of my personal Dropbox to iCloud Drive, about 80 GB. It took 12 or so hours to sync up, but got done with no errors or lost files. After some reorganizing, all workflows were back to normal. This was to take care of multi-device access to personal files.
I decided to keep Maestral running in a no-GUI mode (just the daemon) to keep selective sync running for those few shared, important folders still left in Dropbox. Those are folders produced by others, I've got to "listen" to changes to them every now and then. But by the end of my billing period, those will fit inside my Free plan, one way or another.
Comparing the footprints, Maestral is about 10x more effective in its RAM consumption, yet gets the basic job of "selective Dropbox sync" done. I don't mind keeping it running.
And then I cancelled my Dropbox paid plan, attached with an opinion directed to those who decide about the backlog prioritization of Dropbox.app for Mac. Maybe a +1 helps get the update out of the door before the end of H1/22 at least a few minutes faster.
To be clear, Dropbox support chat was very understanding and helpful in doing this cancellation for me. The support rep collected the feedback and offered to send it to product management / developers, without asking. I got a vibe that Dropbox people had read the tweet from their CEO and are now in a bit of a scramble. That's a welcome reaction.
First observations:
I moved a copy of my personal Dropbox to iCloud Drive, about 80 GB. It took 12 or so hours to sync up, but got done with no errors or lost files. After some reorganizing, all workflows were back to normal. This was to take care of multi-device access to personal files.
I decided to keep Maestral running in a no-GUI mode (just the daemon) to keep selective sync running for those few shared, important folders still left in Dropbox. Those are folders produced by others, I've got to "listen" to changes to them every now and then. But by the end of my billing period, those will fit inside my Free plan, one way or another.
Comparing the footprints, Maestral is about 10x more effective in its RAM consumption, yet gets the basic job of "selective Dropbox sync" done. I don't mind keeping it running.
And then I cancelled my Dropbox paid plan, attached with an opinion directed to those who decide about the backlog prioritization of Dropbox.app for Mac. Maybe a +1 helps get the update out of the door before the end of H1/22 at least a few minutes faster.
To be clear, Dropbox support chat was very understanding and helpful in doing this cancellation for me. The support rep collected the feedback and offered to send it to product management / developers, without asking. I got a vibe that Dropbox people had read the tweet from their CEO and are now in a bit of a scramble. That's a welcome reaction.
First observations:
- As far as I can tell, iCloud Drive is just as good (or bad) at keeping files in sync quickly.
- Getting a share link to a file requires more clicks in iCloud Drive than in Dropbox, but it works.
- Sharing a folder requires the recipient to have an AppleID and their own iCloud Drive. That's silly and a less-than-ideal workflow, but not a show-stopper for me. If it must be shared, I'll zip it and share it as a file. I don't know what's the rational thinking behind this. "Let's market this by limiting the access to folders but not files" doesn't sound like a winning plan from Apple's part.
I have been a Dropbox "user" for years. Earlier this week I did a clean install of Monterey, and when I reinstalled Dropbox it showed me an error dialog when the app failed to start, with an error message pointing to a log file that I should `provide to Dropbox support.` A "solution" provided on the community forum didn't work. Reaching Dropbox support otherwise seemed a daunting task not worth my time.
I realized the files in my Dropbox folder were mostly old, obsolete, unnecessary….i.e. cruft. What little I wanted to keep I moved to my iCloud Documents folder. I have since removed all the files from my Dropbox account, and deleted the mobile apps from my iPhone and iPad Pro.
If there is a compelling reason for me to use Dropbox anymore I guess I don't know what that is. iCloud and the iOS File app seemingly serves me well enough. Simpler is better so abandoning Dropbox seems a good thing for me.
I realized the files in my Dropbox folder were mostly old, obsolete, unnecessary….i.e. cruft. What little I wanted to keep I moved to my iCloud Documents folder. I have since removed all the files from my Dropbox account, and deleted the mobile apps from my iPhone and iPad Pro.
If there is a compelling reason for me to use Dropbox anymore I guess I don't know what that is. iCloud and the iOS File app seemingly serves me well enough. Simpler is better so abandoning Dropbox seems a good thing for me.
The way I see it... cloud storage services have their niches:
iCloud - for Apple users to backup their iPhones
OneDrive - for corporate/enterprise/pro users of Microsoft 365
Google Drive - for everyone with a GMail account
That kinda leaves Dropbox sitting alone.
iCloud - for Apple users to backup their iPhones
OneDrive - for corporate/enterprise/pro users of Microsoft 365
Google Drive - for everyone with a GMail account
That kinda leaves Dropbox sitting alone.
This lack of control is something I’m a bit worried about going forward. Very big iCloud drives will then dominate the consumption of the internal disk, if the local disk is smaller than the cloud. There’s no way to only keep a “minimum important set of files” in sync.
It’s also not clear how iCloud Drive deals with Spotlight indices. Even on small disks, can it do a complete search on the could-only assets it has transparently decided to offload? This would require some testing.