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Dual Processor iMacs?

Re: This one is big...

Originally posted by amichalo

I think you win the award for figuring out that riddle. Now havge a go at the other ones!
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OK, here's the deal. Listen closely, it's pretty loud here lately. We can start with the most recent one.

No PC has ever been able to reach into all kind of aspects of our daily life. Apple will be changing their structure (somewhat) to focus more on new ideas that will be more like commodity products.

For example, the insanely large Cinema Display is perfect for ... replacing a TV. The fact that Macintosh will be providing all the electronic "services" that you use in your life is inevitable and will be a reality sooner than most people think.

Keep watching, it's going to be amazing!
 
This is getting more and more ridiculous.Guys,they are making fun of us,they are only refering to the Expo,which is a Mac Expo,where no PC has been before.Have you seen a PC on a Macworld Expo?Stop speculating like idiots!!
 
Stupidest Rumor Yet

As i've said elsewhere, this is the stupidest rumor yet. The g3 processor is not multiprocessor aware, meaning the new iMacs would *have* to be g4-based and yet Moto can hardly keep pace with demand for *single* processor g4 towers, what makes anyone in his/her right mind think that Apple would standardize on dual-CPU g4-based iMacs after their utter failure at standardizing on dual CPU towers a year ago? And what about heat in a fanless iMac? I believe the Cube showed us what happens when you try to cram a g4 processor in a fanless case - capped CPU speeds b/c of the need to keep CPU temps down. Heck, even the Ti's have fans!

And HDTV-based Apple displays? Apple doesn't even sell a Mac with TV-in/out capabilities yet and has made it clear they abandoned the computer as TV concept years ago. Why release a display for a product you do not have (or plan to have in the future?).

And who the *&^$ is eeTimes anyway?!

Bunk. All bunk.

Speed
 
Dual Processor vs Dual Core

Don't count out the possibility that what they mean by "dual processor" is a CPU with dual cores. I.e. One chip with two CPU's on it. This could be done very easily with existing designs...
 
Re: Dual Processor vs Dual Core

I thought that the G3 could be used as a dual processor, BUT the problem is that the 2 processors would not work efficiently together. How about a 1Ghz Sahara as the primary and a 500Mhz as the secondary? Dont know if u can mix different speeds though?

I think that a dual processor for the imac is a bad idea (Unless they badge this example as 1.5Ghz).
 
DP imac

I don't think Apple will release a DP imac in Tokyo. They probably release it in NY. I think it is too early for them to upgrade DP imac in Tokyo. Usually take 6 months. But I think they will release a faster tower in Tokyo. Hopefully!
 
No DP imacs

Apple will not release a DP imac! If the powermacs use the G5 then apple has plenty of room for expansion using the apollo chips.:eek:
 
no more G3's in iMacs.

As of Jan 7th iMacs are G4's. They DO have a fan. The case is too small to fit an adequate heat sinc in to keep u with 2 processors. Perhaps if iMac was to get Apollo G4's.

A Cinema display significantly larger than the existing would be exponentially more expensive to produce as LCD tech gets to be a VERY wasteful process in the larger sizes. The larger a sheet of LCD, the more likeley there will be more than an acceptable number of "dead" pixels. Higher res is quite likeley, Apple has been steadily increasing the Resolution of it's laptop LCD's.
 
If the apollos are being made with SOI technology ( are they?), then maybe they would produce less heat, hence making it possible.

This is a very vague thing to say.
 
i doubt it, the low end new imac is coming out the same time as teh tokyo expo, so no, the top model migh be updated but i would not hold my breath. As for g5, thats is almost require to be at the next expo
 
Sure it is, Apple don't have any choice. They have to release it as soon as possible in order to increase the difference of power between the consumer model "IMac" and the "pro" known as tower... Right now we can get an iMac with almost the same processor for about $1100 less... so I think something there'S missing, and i guess Apple already knows it and will probably change it next Jobs' presentation. Portable computer upgrade will wait till May or April, i don't remember when it takes place exactly.

I'm waiting for this G5 for years... iwas sad when I realized that he did not annonce the one I was waiting for on last monday... But i'll be patient!

AS soon as possible please :)
 
TylerL and random ramblings that everyone should read!!

TylerL

I believe what you read about the Apple ADC connector was that in its present form, it is near capacity for power transmission. Increasing the resolution would do little to change the power consumption, but increasing the size of the physical LCD by 2" would increase the total area by about 10%. From what I understand, that would not be possible with the current capabilties of the hardware. Hope that helps resolve your question.

I think that basically debunks the rumor that we will see a 24" cinema display anytime soon...higher native resolutions would remain a possibility, however. It will be interesting to see what the near future holds.

As a side note, iMacs were introduced with G3 processors on May 6, 1998. The G4 PowerMac was not introduced until October 13, 1999, meaning that the two processors coexisted in the consumer and pro lines for over 17 months. Does that mean that we shouldn't expect to see G5 desktops until June of 2003? I doubt it. Most likely is the transition of the Apollo G4 at higher clock speeds than the current incarnation of the G4 until the G5 is a commercially viable microprocessor. I for one am ready for the PowerPC to break the GHz barrier once and for all.

One more thing...I was entirely underwhelmed by the iMac at its introduction, but only because this time around we actually knew it was coming. One of the reasons why the original iMac was and always will be an icon was that it came from nowhere. It was an original. No one could have possibly predicted that Apple would create a low-end machine with such kitschy flair and character that it would become their best selling computer ever.

Over its 3 year life, the orignal iMac became not so original, so a sequel was apparent long before it was viable for Apple to introduce the iMac2. This gave a lot of creative people a lot of time to speculate and dream about what the next incarnation would be. These people are highly skilled 3d modelers, but do they have any credentials for industrial design? Are any of their designs rooted in reality? Could they be produced and sold for a profit? Is it fair for any "MacRumorer" to even judge Apple's iMac2 design on some whimsical rendering that would cost more to produce that the iMac2 costs to buy? I think we all have to look at the iMac2 compared to the original. Ask yourself--is this an improvement to the design and functionality of the first. Some may say yes, some may say no, but to compare a real, mass produceable product to one created in 4 hours using 3d Studio and Photoshop is totally ungrounded in reality. Don't forget that the design of this product took **2 years!**

I guess I am just happy to see some new blood in the Apple lineup. I can't exactly say I love the new design, but it has grown on me like mold. It's hard to believe it has only been a few days since its introduction. I hope that it is even more successful than the first, so that maybe in 3 more years we can see something closer to what we all expected 2002 to bring the iMac.
 
imac and the future

there is nothing wrong with the dual processor imac idea which won't sound so crazy when a 900 mhz or 1+ ghz g5 is introduced in the pro model

who thought apple would come out with a g4 imac and an lcd imac in the same computer? there is no reason to hold back the dual processor at this time

btw - nice to see you spikey, and you've passed 500 and that makes you the senior member times 5, or a "regular" as they call "over 100" people now

i don't get this "6502" thing they gave to you and my "old" jefhatfield handle though

what does "6502" mean?
 
why thank you jef. Nice to see u too.

When times are hard for apple then they might well introduce a dual cpu imac, and no doubt that in the future times will be hard. But not any time soon i think, although like jef said, you just never know with apple.

I asked that question about the 6502 on another board, but i dont think i got a response
 
re: 6502

i found out 6502 was the old chip in the commodore, amiga, and apple II systems

some call this the original chip of modern computing that really made the industry take off in any measurable quantity

so my old handle jefhatfield and your handle represent the original mold of macrumors.com
 
I should be very surprise to see that so call dual iMac, well at least in the next 2 years. I was told by people who bought PowerMac dual computer that were not a lot of software who can actually take advantage of these two processors, and I bet that Apple already know it, and that'S why i'm not expecting a iMac dual...

Actually, if you are purchasing a Powermac Dual, you're paying about $800 just to get the second processor, ( i,m not sure about the price ) and actually this is not very useful, except if you use softwares that are compatible with and there's not a lot of them on the market! you're just wasting your money! But, there,S an exception, depend if you're using it as a Server, now that,S pretty useful because AppleShare IP, MacosX... have the capability to use both processors so this is the advantage. but I mean if you just want to buy it just for yourself.... Just think about it.

Just to say that you'll never see an iMac Dual till 2004...

P.S : 2 processors in a computer it,S also too expensive for the company, so it's also very expensive for us! But for those who are pretty rich! .... Go get it, It still a Mac Dual processor, so very powerful!
 
100th Post

Well look at that, I'm a regular now. Anyway I think dual processors will be reserved for professional models in the future.
 
3D rendering

Exactly, like server or 3D rendering even video editing.... now that might be very great nad useful, should be such a pleasure to work on it :) isn't it ?
 
Dual processor Macs

So what really are the benefits to the dual processor Macs? Someone point me to some sort of benchmark. Is the second processor really doing that much more work to make it that much more expensive?

Just an unenlightened Dualie guy...
 
Speed

Well apple has speed test on the dual prosessors... But thoughs always have photoshop.... g4 dual's have been a good thing, and if you don't care about the apple warenty, then you can just overclock it and make it the 867 dual !
 
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