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If you choose not to take me at my word, then there's nothing I could tell you now that would make any difference. Wait until September. Cheers!

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I will laugh my self to sleep in September when your whole hypothesis is disproven.
 
Think about the time Apple wanted to introduce a Simless iPhone and the carriers rejected it because they want people coming into their shops.

Apple could have a Touch with wifi, (simless) wifi+3G and wifi+3G+phone with small memory options - perfect for occasional users and the young (where in Europe prepaid is by far the most popular). Satisfies a cheap phone and Steves determination not to be bossed by the carriers. CDMA doesn't need a sim, I travel a lot and getting sims for the iPad is a nightmare. It's time these carrier thieves were put in their place - Simless could be the start. Also note Apples various patents for becoming a worldwide MVNO (mobile virtual network operator).
 
I'm not optimistic about the Touch as I believe a cheaper iPhone 3Gs type device with no contract would have more market appeal than another Touch at the same price points but I admit that a WIFI only iPhone is at least an interesting arguable alternative format for the Touch. All they would have to do is move the mike and speaker around and you have a Skype phone. But is there really that much demand for a Skype phone? The thing that I have been waiting for since Gen 1 (which I have) is for there to be GPS available and others have said that also. Without GPS and location services for a mobile device I'm not going to buy it, Skype or not.

I don't see it as likely but until the new devices are announced you can hope.
 
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Easy: some of us barely make any phone calls, so a dirt-cheap pay-as-you-go phone makes a LOT more sense, but we're stuck with the pretty expensive iPhone plan because we actually use a lot of data.
There are dirt-cheap Android phones (<$200 unlocked) but only one carrier in the US (Virgin using Sprint as the network) is offering cheap data plans and selling data plans without expensive voice plans.
In addition, Apple (and all other smartphone makers) also have insane margins on their high-end products. '3G' costs $129 on an iPad, on an iPhone touch it costs more like $450 (that includes better cameras, metal frame, glass back, larger viewing angle display, microphones, extra loudspeaker, all costing Apple probably about $50 extra). These high margins exist because enough people buy subsidised phones, therefore never see the full price and thus do not make the comparison with the price of an iPod touch (ie, don't realise '3G' is $450 surcharge).
 
I want the iPod Touch to be FASTER. I am finding it much more difficult to use compared to iPhone 4 because it's slower and has less RAM. Many crashes, and multitasking is completely pointless because I can only run 2 to 3 apps at a time. iTouch is either technically weak, or something is wrong with my device.
 
i think it would be good the ipodtouch features 3g would be for prepay customers
 
All I seem to see in classes now days are students texting. In Europe, due to cost, texting is far more common for communicating than voice calls. Once you got back to your dorm room or cyber-cafe, you could use the Wi-Fi network for VOIP. Combine it with a voicemail service, like Google Voice or Skype, and it would be better than what was offered pre-advent of the cell phone.

The budget-conscious student would likely find such an option appealing, especially if Apple is able to swing the month-to-month options available for the iPad. If Apple were to make it closer to a $50 option over the non-3G iPod Touch than the iPad's $100, I think it would be a big hit.

I'm from Denmark and I pay 149,- a month ($28) for my 3 3G contract which includes : 5 hour free calls, free SMS, free MMS, 5 GB data included and no 'callers fee'
So I would say voice calls in Scandinsvia are pretty cheap - in fact free if you, like me, only make two or three fast calls a day :)
 
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I'd love a 3G chip in my iPod in the style of an iPad. There are a few times of the year where it would come in handy - but for the most part I don't need it. So monthly "pay as you go" style 3G would be perfect for me.

No I don't want an iPhone because I need more than 32gb, even the 64gb iPod is a bit of a squeeze. I'm forced to use the 128kbps conversion option just to get all my music, all my photos and some apps on it! No room for videos. I'm also a fan of how thin the iPod is. In comparison the iPhone is quite chunky. Also I've already got a phone that I'm in no rush to replace.
 
I'd love a 3G chip in my iPod in the style of an iPad. There are a few times of the year where it would come in handy - but for the most part I don't need it. So monthly "pay as you go" style 3G would be perfect for me.

As I said previously, the reason the iPhone is thicker is because of the huge battery to power the 3G radio for any length of time. An iPod touch with 3G would be just as thick as an iPhone, nearly as expensive, but unable to call anyone. What'd be the point?
 
My thought exactly. Maybe this is the iPhone 'lite' that's been rumored for so long. I only make a couple of calls a day, a few texts and use the 3G on my Virgin Mobile android phone for maybe a half hour a day. It doesn't make sense to pay $100 a month for the privilege of an iPhone.

I'm not overly fond of Google, but if Virgin Mobile doesn't get the iPhone when Sprint does and the 3G iPod is real, I'll gladly dump VM and buy an iPod.

then why not buy an iPod touch now? You can use your android vm phone (im assuming you have one) to tether your iPod w/unlim data....
 
then why not buy an iPod touch now? You can use your android vm phone (im assuming you have one) to tether your iPod w/unlim data....

I want the next gen iPod Touch! I had bought one last fall and loved it, but when I got the android phone, I sold the Touch to my neighbor because his daughters liked playing Angry Birds on it! I was surprised how much I missed it.
 
Not everyone wants to pay for voice.

No such thing.

You *don't* have to pay for voice when you buy an iPhone. Not even in the US. It's already perfectly possible to buy an unlocked, contract-free model and put a tablet-data-only-sim-card in. This will allow you to pay much less per month, but rather unsurprisingly you don't get carrier subsisides so you get to pay much more upfront. That's a big part of iPhone plans -- paying off the massive debt you acquired by getting an iPhone at $100 up front.
 
Easy: some of us barely make any phone calls, so a dirt-cheap pay-as-you-go phone makes a LOT more sense, but we're stuck with the pretty expensive iPhone plan because we actually use a lot of data. My wife and I make one, maybe two calls a day each, and they're short ones. AT&T LOVES me and my wife. If there's a 3G Touch, I'm buying one for each of us as soon as I can get out of my iPhone contract, without a doubt. No problem using an ugly dumbphone. I like the Touch more than the iPhone, design-wise, anyway. Bring it on!

You say AT&T LOVEs you! But they hate you if you use a lot of data. Phone calls are super cheap for them and data hogs clog up the network. The customer that AT&T loves is the one that checks e-mail once a day and talks all day.
 
Think about the time Apple wanted to introduce a Simless iPhone and the carriers rejected it because they want people coming into their shops.

Apple could have a Touch with wifi, (simless) wifi+3G and wifi+3G+phone with small memory options - perfect for occasional users and the young (where in Europe prepaid is by far the most popular). Satisfies a cheap phone and Steves determination not to be bossed by the carriers. CDMA doesn't need a sim, I travel a lot and getting sims for the iPad is a nightmare. It's time these carrier thieves were put in their place - Simless could be the start. Also note Apples various patents for becoming a worldwide MVNO (mobile virtual network operator).

The problem with CDMA is that it is an outdated technology and only Verizon (and Sprint?) use it in the US and China is the only other country in the world that uses it.
 
The problem with CDMA is that it is an outdated technology and only Verizon (and Sprint?) use it in the US and China is the only other country in the world that uses it.
Acutally, the List of cdma2000 networks (cdma2000 is the 3G version of CDMA) is a bit longer.

However, there won't be a 4G version of CDMA. The 4G standard of the GSM family (GSM, EDGE, UMTS/W-CDMA, LTE) will also constitute the upgrade path for CDMA.
 
Acutally, the List of cdma2000 networks (cdma2000 is the 3G version of CDMA) is a bit longer.

However, there won't be a 4G version of CDMA. The 4G standard of the GSM family (GSM, EDGE, UMTS/W-CDMA, LTE) will also constitute the upgrade path for CDMA.

Thanks!!! I never knew I could use my phone in Azerbijan, or Belarus, or Haiti, or Kyrgyzstan. Actually, the only way my phone will be used in any of these places is if it gets stolen and dude goes there with it. :rolleyes:
 
The important thing for me would be that the iPod will then have a real GPS chip - the 3G and GPS components are on the same chip
 
Why would people even purchase an iPhone is an iPod touch has 3G?

No viewpoint can justify why Apple would bring 3G to and ipod touch.
 
Why would people even purchase an iPhone is an iPod touch has 3G?

Because they want a phone? The only reason I want a 3G iPod Touch and won't buy an iPhone is that I don't want a phone. Why would anyone want to carry around an iPod Touch AND a cell phone?
 
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