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Duke University iPod Deal?

This is slightly on topic but I remember recently Napster was or did team up with some university to provide free downloads to all their students though it was part of their tuition. I see how that could have people shaking their heads but the iPod itself has multiple uses.

BTW, where do I sign up my school ;)
 
Penn State, I believe, did the Napster deal.

Partially to make legal stuff available and avoid having the university sued.
 
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appleface said:
instead of saving files to a campus server's hardrive, students can simply plug in their ipod and use it as a hard drive that can go anywhere there is a computer, on or off campus. it sounds educational, but we all know that the students would love it for the tunes.
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This seems like possibly the best idea I've heard to justify this. If Apple really implimented home on iPod, then the students would be able to use computer facilities in class with their own resources, use computer labs as though it were their own computer, etc., etc.
 
edgar_is_good said:
This seems like possibly the best idea I've heard to justify this. If Apple really implimented home on iPod, then the students would be able to use computer facilities in class with their own resources, use computer labs as though it were their own computer, etc., etc.
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That would seriously "revolutionize" part of the education sector. I think that would have a major influence on business too. That would be so awesome. I'm in aw with the possibilities.
–Chase
 
If universities start using them you know Apple and Third party software developers will end up making edu software for the iPod.
 
Dr. Pookey said:
This sounds bogus. What "educational purposes" are there for an iPod. I mean, really... what's a college student going to honestly do with one but listen to music?
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1. Not expose the university to tort liability for illegally downloaded music. That is, if there's adequate incentive to download from iTMS.

2. Move large data files (engineering drawings, etc.)

3. Record and listen to lectures.

4. Become lifelong Apple loyalists.
 
Perhaps this might push Apple to fully implement the "iPod at Home" feature that was SUPPOSED to come with Panther. Full blown Home folder and login on your iPod. Duke wouldn't have to worry about students storing illegal files on their servers and it would be MUCH faster than pulling files off of ethernet. Now to get my University to do this....
 
ajkst1 said:
Perhaps this might push Apple to fully implement the "iPod at Home" feature that was SUPPOSED to come with Panther. Full blown Home folder and login on your iPod. Duke wouldn't have to worry about students storing illegal files on their servers and it would be MUCH faster than pulling files off of ethernet. Now to get my University to do this....
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Home on the iPod would rule!! You could have these semi-dumb terminals all over the place with little slots for iPods (or just docks if u wanted to be boring)... mmmhmmmm
 
whfsdude said:
Neat idea but do you really think education money should be spent on this? Why bring up the price of college up more?
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duke has a lot of money so i don't think it would be that big of a deal for them.
 
Waste

whfsdude said:
Neat idea but do you really think education money should be spent on this? Why bring up the price of college up more?
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Why would they do this? Let's see should I go to Duke or CAL. OOh iPod...FREE? Duke here I come. Give me a break. This is a stupid waste of money. There are plenty of people who do not and never will give a damn about mp3 players!
 
Pomp and Circumstance

Given Apple's supply problems, Duke freshman should plan on receiving their iPods when they get their diplomas. :rolleyes:
 
it's called a palm pilot

Let me list the reasons people are saying iPods would be great for a college student. Then I'll list the reasons why a $200 Palm would do better. Cheaper. Easier.

1) Record lectures. How grossly inefficient is it to have every person in class record lectures when the professor could do it and post it? And ask any college student how often in four years they RE-listened to a lecture. I GUARANTEE you could count the answer on one hand. A Palm can play MP3s as easily, and spoken lectures take up very little space.

2) Audio books. Yes, audio books are nice, but how much academic learning can be done with one? Little to none. I'd bet less than 1% of academic material used is available as an audio book. I'd bet less than 1% of that would ever get listened to.

3) Big stereos in dorm rooms. Most college students I know still had big old speakers so they could listen to music w/o their earphones. Most had MP3 players. All had computers. An iPod would only add to the stuff in the room, not take away. If you're in your room, you use your computer for MP3s, since you're probably IMing on it anyway. If you're out, you use your MP3 player, which doesn't have to be an iPod.

4) Portable storage. 30 gigs of storage is asking for piracy. NO ONE needs that much space for class work. My four years of email, college papers and the associated PDFs was nowhere near 1 gig. Small USB pen drives (128MB for $40) are much more cost efficient and would accomplish this goal just as well. Or a bluetooth enabled Palm.

If this rumor turns out to be true, it is a gimmick and nothing more. A waste of money. I will be disappointed in my alma mater if they decide to do this. Mark my words, the iPod's life is limited. A pure music player is becoming obselete more quickly than the markets realize.
 
pkkrusty said:
4) Portable storage. 30 gigs of storage is asking for piracy. NO ONE needs that much space for class work. My four years of email, college papers and the associated PDFs was nowhere near 1 gig.
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Then you are not in engineering! I easily create a GB of data while working on a real project.
 
pkkrusty said:
4) Portable storage. 30 gigs of storage is asking for piracy. NO ONE needs that much space for class work. My four years of email, college papers and the associated PDFs was nowhere near 1 gig. Small USB pen drives (128MB for $40) are much more cost efficient and would accomplish this goal just as well. Or a bluetooth enabled Palm.
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Agree. Who needs 20 GB for MSWord and MSPP docs...? ;) :confused:
 
Raiden said:
This will not work.

I went to school where they gave every studen iBooks. All we did was play games and talk on message boards. Hardly any time was spent on them for edu purposes.

While that was high school and ibooks, I am sure college and ipods will be the exact same...

I wish they would give an ipod to alumini, my mom went to duke lol.
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Sounds like you went to school with some very unambitious students. I'm sorry, but for all those nay sayers out there...eat my shorts. Don't be jealous. The fact of the matter is ipods CAN and WOULD be used for educational purposes if put in the right hands. I have faith that freshmen entering into Duke will have the sense and the intellectual drive to use their iPods both for recreational and educational purposes. Shame on you. Just because you can't imagine yourself or the stereotypical college student using this wonderful gadget to its fullest potential, that don't mean dookie.
 
well i am an ncsu student and duke is just down the road so i'll comment on a few things...

first of all this doesnt surprise me at all and i believe it.....

first of all duke costs $texas so the cost of an iPod is minimal.... all the students there are either loaded (read: rich) or really really smart and have enough scholarships to cover the cost of the education there


this isn't the first time duke has gone with ideas that seem odd to the rest of us

i.e. they recently cancelled all 8am classes because not enough students were registering.. i believe school over there starts at 8:30 or 9:00

campus organizations can hold keg parties as fundraisers..... e.g. "Kegs for Kids"

what else do you expect from the cameron crazies

i wouldn't have minded getting in to duke.... i was waitlisted then denied...... at least i am not in a hell of a lot of debt

duke would do something like this

PS since dookies are loaded the university has probably already seen enough students making good "educational" use of the ipod in classes such as recording lectures and are just extending the idea to all incoming freshman

next they need to convert all freshman to powerbook owners......a pro-mac university would be awesome

not all schoolwork are MS documents...

i have used up to 15 gigs of my 40 gig for schoolwork

when you have design work for print at 150-300dpi and the print work is as big as 40x30 inches and 16-24 bit then you have 200+ meg files

if you work in a science field and have large databases you may need the space...

if you do video or media work you may need the space for school

also it is financially sound for the university to do this......the university could pay for more storage space for students or they could charge the students for an ipod and not have to pay for storage .... make the student liable for their needed storage instead of the network.... you reduce network traffic as well.......

iPods cost students money and saves duke money
 
I'm with the guys who are on the EDUCATION boat

I'm enrolled to recieve a Master's in Teaching and technology has done nothing but HELP my teaching and my learning

the iPods uses are limitless!!!

now, someone did mention a Palm Pilot, and that is a good point, however, the Palm is simply lacking in storage

Many Americans are becoming graphic artists, engineers, etc etc -- jobs that reguire LARGE files -- so the iPod makes sense here

eventually, iPods will probably have the technology to input data, share data, etc --- making them even more worthwhile!

This plan has my vote!
 
Duke Alums?

Isn't arn from durham, does he have any affiliatiaon with duke? I always wondered, being a duke alum myself.
 
Duke Sucks. Go Terps!:)

Seriously, this has some interesting potential, and Duke seems like just the type of university to try something like this.
Be interesting to see where this leads...
 
crees! said:
This is slightly on topic but I remember recently Napster was or did team up with some university to provide free downloads to all their students though it was part of their tuition. I see how that could have people shaking their heads but the iPod itself has multiple uses.

BTW, where do I sign up my school ;)
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Penn State and Rochester University both had deals like this last school year.
More schools will be having services like this next year and from companies other than Napster.

W
 
Personally, if I had a choice between getting an ipod and paying $500 less for my college education, I'm taking the $500. I'll buy an ipod with my own money and not have it be part of tuition expenses.
 
The Sheck said:
Personally, if I had a choice between getting an ipod and paying $500 less for my college education, I'm taking the $500. I'll buy an ipod with my own money and not have it be part of tuition expenses.
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As was already mentioned, $500 (not Duke's actual cost, don't be silly -- not to mention this might not even be reflected in tuition) is chump change for many of those entering into Duke.
 
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