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MrMister111

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I’m thinking of going the Apple duo charger for convenience. Firstly I think it’s ridiculous that Apple sell a charger without a power adapter, but that’s a different argument.

Looking at what you need, to me, it isn’t clear and so many differences, which is another reason Apple should have included a power adapter.

There is different Wattage, some even Apple adapters don’t work (29W one), it’s just so confusing. I’ve looked on the Apple support doc https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211925 and still unsure.

Basically as it’s a Duo, I want to charge both at once so which is best charger please? I think it also has to have specific V/A setting so can’t just be a 20W one for example as may not be correct V/A.

I have this Native union one which is a 20W USB-C and ISB-A. If I just used the USB-C port for it are the specs correct to charge both at once? https://www.nativeunion.com/products/smart-charger-pd-20w.

Apple doc says To use both the iPhone and Watch charger at the same time, the MagSafe Duo Charger requires at least 15W (5V/3A or 9V/1.67A), but this will result in slower charging., the Native Union says it is 5V/4A

Or should I just buy the Apple 20W USB-C and be done, is this enough?

Thanks
 
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The product is called "MagSafe Duo Charger". After purchasing it I realized it is only an adapter. NOT a charger. I was unable to charge my phone with a they says Charger in black and white on front of the box.

Surprised Apple getting away with this.

I understand most people already have a power source. However as you are asking, not all power sources are the same. Either a fully compatible CHARGER should come in the box or the product marketing needs to be changed.




I’m thinking of going the Apple duo charger for convenience. Firstly I think it’s ridiculous that Apple sell a charger without a power adapter, but that’s a different argument.

Looking at what you need, to me, it isn’t clear and so many differences, which is another reason Apple should have included a power adapter.

There is different Wattage, some even Apple adapters don’t work (29W one), it’s just so confusing. I’ve looked on the Apple support doc https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211925 and still unsure.

Basically as it’s a Duo, I want to charge both at once so which is best charger please? I think it also has to have specific V/A setting so can’t just be a 20W one for example as may not be correct V/A.

I have this Native union one which is a 20W USB-C and ISB-A. If I just used the USB-C port for it are the specs correct to charge both at once? https://www.nativeunion.com/products/smart-charger-pd-20w.

Apple doc says To use both the iPhone and Watch charger at the same time, the MagSafe Duo Charger requires at least 15W (5V/3A or 9V/1.67A), but this will result in slower charging., the Native Union says it is 5V/4A

Or should I just buy the Apple 20W USB-C and be done, is this enough?

Thanks
 
I’m thinking of going the Apple duo charger for convenience. Firstly I think it’s ridiculous that Apple sell a charger without a power adapter, but that’s a different argument.

Looking at what you need, to me, it isn’t clear and so many differences, which is another reason Apple should have included a power adapter.

There is different Wattage, some even Apple adapters don’t work (29W one), it’s just so confusing. I’ve looked on the Apple support doc https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211925 and still unsure.

Basically as it’s a Duo, I want to charge both at once so which is best charger please? I think it also has to have specific V/A setting so can’t just be a 20W one for example as may not be correct V/A.

I have this Native union one which is a 20W USB-C and ISB-A. If I just used the USB-C port for it are the specs correct to charge both at once? https://www.nativeunion.com/products/smart-charger-pd-20w.

Apple doc says To use both the iPhone and Watch charger at the same time, the MagSafe Duo Charger requires at least 15W (5V/3A or 9V/1.67A), but this will result in slower charging., the Native Union says it is 5V/4A

Or should I just buy the Apple 20W USB-C and be done, is this enough?

Thanks

The paperwork in the box says:

Frequency: 50 to 60 Hz single phase
Line Voltage: 100 to 240 VAC
Output Voltage/Current: 9VDC/2.2A
Minimum Power Output: 20W
 
Found my Anker 30W USB-C PowerPort Atom PD1 charger. Has 5V/3A, 9V/3A, 15V/2A, 20V/1.5A. Only thing don’t like is it’s not foldable pins, although it is quite small.

Maybe this is better than the Apple 20W? Although think that Apple doc says it’s either 11W or 14W so not that much different, and I presume the Apple 20W can charge both iPhone and watch at once.

Now I want a cable that has USB-C to lightning and USB-C for flexibility, and can charge with power delivery etc, and has high wattage capability, but seems hard to find.
 
I’m thinking of going the Apple duo charger for convenience. Firstly I think it’s ridiculous that Apple sell a charger without a power adapter, but that’s a different argument.

Looking at what you need, to me, it isn’t clear and so many differences, which is another reason Apple should have included a power adapter.

There is different Wattage, some even Apple adapters don’t work (29W one), it’s just so confusing. I’ve looked on the Apple support doc https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT211925 and still unsure.

Basically as it’s a Duo, I want to charge both at once so which is best charger please? I think it also has to have specific V/A setting so can’t just be a 20W one for example as may not be correct V/A.

I have this Native union one which is a 20W USB-C and ISB-A. If I just used the USB-C port for it are the specs correct to charge both at once? https://www.nativeunion.com/products/smart-charger-pd-20w.

Apple doc says To use both the iPhone and Watch charger at the same time, the MagSafe Duo Charger requires at least 15W (5V/3A or 9V/1.67A), but this will result in slower charging., the Native Union says it is 5V/4A

Or should I just buy the Apple 20W USB-C and be done, is this enough?

Magsafe Duo product page:

Recommended:
– 20W USB-C Power Adapter that supports 9V/2.22A (sold separately) for faster wireless charging up to 11W
– 27W or higher USB-C Power Adapter that supports 9V/3A (sold separately) for faster wireless charging up to 14W

Now I want a cable that has USB-C to lightning and USB-C for flexibility, and can charge with power delivery etc, and has high wattage capability, but seems hard to find.

I haven't used this, but I'm sure there are others.
 
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I just bought this, but forgot it doesn't come with a USB C brick. I don't have an extra USB C brick.

Excluding power bricks from a so called "charger" is definitely not taking care of the customer, no matter what their excuse is.

Taking it back right now out of principle.
 
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I just bought this, but forgot it doesn't come with a USB C brick. I don't have an extra USB C brick.

Excluding power bricks from a so called "charger" is definitely not taking care of the customer, no matter what their excuse is.

Taking it back right now out of principle.

Agree, for an actual charger product to not come with a power source is ridiculous in my opinion. It causes so much confusion as well on which to buy, with all the power V and A options. All could have been sorted with included one.

It’s a good product though and really handy, small and lightweight, just wish it was USB-C as all will be eventually.
 
Thinking of now getting an Anker 511 dual port USB-C 40W Charger to use now with it.

Using a single port can charge up to 40W (MacBook etc), using 2 ports supplies 20W per port, so could do the duo for Watch and iPhone, and another for iPad or another phone.

Looks small as think uses GaN tech and flexibility of 2 ports in 1 Charger.
 
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