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Duo That Defrauded Apple Out of 5,000 iPhones With Repair Scheme Could Spend Up to 20 Years in Prison
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Were you around for when they introduced the tools to catch it and combat it? (Not mentioning the exact tools in case that’s not on the internet already)
I was thinking about an evil green owl when I saw "Duo" on the title.
why? they did not die...
Why does no Apple executive go to jail for robbing customers?
Same here. I got so good at spotting fakes by looking at the iPhone typography on the device. Sometimes it was easy to spot and sometimes it was subtle. But on a legit iPhone it’s always perfect.
We actually profiled the gangs that came in with no-power phones for exchange and wouldn’t let them book a Genius appointment if the phone was obviously fake.
I came here to say exactly this. It's impressive how fraud can get you the same or higher prison sentence than actual homicide in other countries.
I don’t get the US legal system, could someone clarify.
Why do some frauds lead to prison sentences, such as this one, while other frauds lead to $350 million dollar fines?
Is it that the rich can just pay to stay out of jail whilst the poor can’t?
Why do some frauds lead to prison sentences, such as this one, while other frauds lead to $350 million dollar fines?
Is it that the rich can just pay to stay out of jail whilst the poor can’t?
People need to understand that those thieving from Apple are just costing the rest of us more in the form of higher prices.
For everyone who's upset at the 20 year sentence mentioned, they won't serve all 20 years. And even if they did, that's basically 1 1/2 days in prison for each instance of fraud. 
No, it's because there are different kinds of fraud.
In this case, the defendants were charged with mail fraud, or using the mail service to commit fraud. That is a federal crime that exists regardless of the financial gain someone may have made from the fraud itself. And there are statutory penalties for committing that crime. Here's the USDOJ press release.
EDIT: The link didn't attach, let's try it again https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/...timillion-dollar-scheme-defraud-apple-inc-out
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Uh, I sure did Mikey which is exactly why I wrote what I wrote.
"... and are facing a statutory maximum sentence of 20 years in prison. Sentencing will take place on June 21, 2024."
They are "Facing a maximum sentence" which is T0-Be-Determined since the "sentencing" hasn't even taken place. They could get a fraction of the maximum time, if not off on probation, here in the states. Maybe you should read more thoroughly yourself.
So in fact the charges that face a max twenty year sentence are not because of the fraud itself. It’s that the parties made the mail system complicit in a crime?
It’s the abuse of the system that is being punished?
I happened to have googled this yesterday, but there’s already been 38 iterations of the phone if you include SE and max and pro and mini and whatever else.
Never a good idea to trick anyone, especially Apple. Good to see that the culprits have been apprehended.
20 years is grotesque. They should be fined…no jail
Remember how heavy handed the authorities were with the prototype iPhone left in the bar. You would think Apple owned the police.
There's a lot of brouhaha about the 20 years. That's the statutory maximum sentence for their crimes, but that is not how long they will actually face (unless they've been repeatedly busted for committing mail fraud or other crimes).
Their sentence will be decided according to the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines which takes into account their offense level and their criminal history, and uses a chart to determine the number of months they'll serve.
I hope MacRumors updates us on June 21st with their sentence.
Their sentence will be decided according to the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines which takes into account their offense level and their criminal history, and uses a chart to determine the number of months they'll serve.
I hope MacRumors updates us on June 21st with their sentence.
Thankfully in the UK they would probably only get a couple of years or even better a community order. It’s hard to get upset about property crimes especially those against multinational corporations. The sentencing in US is crazy, didn’t you guys give a life without parole sentence to someone who stole a slice of pizza?
Let's hope they make the iPhone 38 mini by then or most probably the iPhone 38 would be big as the iMac.
Apparently they did for a couple of years and over 5,000 phones worth about $3,000,000. They didn't drop by a CVS and grab a bunch of feminine products without paying. They had to either themselves, or with their team, send in those 5,000 phones and Apple obviously didn't catch the issue or do anything about it before the 5,000 phones were exchanged.
How they got caught? That's a different story. I wonder how they gamed the whole serial number system at Apple.