DVD Ripper

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  1. Zuplar macrumors regular

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    i have been trying to rip DVD's in leopard, but haven't had any luck. i have been using MacTheRipper. is there something else i need to use? any help would be great.
     
  2. gvg45 macrumors member

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    You can donate to MTR and get 14i which is compatible with Leopard.
     
  3. Zuplar thread starter macrumors regular

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    i guess i don't understand how to use handbrake, because i downloaded it but never got anywhere.
     
  4. TheStu macrumors 65816

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    Alrighty then, let me give you a quick walkthrough.

    Lets say you are ripping a DVD, which Handbrake is ideal for (IMO)

    Insert the DVD into the drive. If you have DVD player set to auto-launch, let it do so, then quit DVD Player.

    Now, launch Handbrake and select the DVD from the drop down menu. Once it analyzes the disk, it auto-selects 'Normal' from the presets.

    This is an MP4 file (meaning immediate compatibility with iTunes, iPods, Quicktime, AppleTV, and FrontRow [someone please correct me if I am wrong about the ipods and ATV]) that is set at 1500Kb/s (definitely watchable given the file size) with h264 and 2 pass encoding.

    h264 is a very, very high quality codec that allows you to maintain the low file sizes that people are used to with AVI, but yield much higher quality files. 2 Pass encoding means that Handbrake analyzes the video in depth before actually encoding it. This allows it give you better video quality than a 1 pass encoding since it now knows what areas of the video it can reduce bit rate on, but still maintain quality. I am fairly certain that you will see the most benefit from 2pass if you are trying to hit a target file size, rather than a target bit rate, but I could be wrong.

    Press Start and be prepared to leave your computer alone for a while... I would suggest starting the rip before you go to sleep. Handbrake is multi-core aware however, so if you have a quad-core or octo-core, you will rip faster than I can. I get about a 1:1 ratio per pass (1 minute of video = 1 minute of encoding) on my 1.83GHz Core Duo.
     
  5. Zuplar thread starter macrumors regular

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    it's weird, but i did it exactly how you said and it tells me it is done within about 30 seconds. then when i click on the clip, it plays the first 20 seconds, and that's it. on the 30 seconds the volume is all off track.
     
  6. Bern macrumors 68000

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    What I don't understand is how is it a donation if you can't actually get the app unless you pay for it? In that case it's not actually a donation :rolleyes: So rather than purchase an app that is still (apparently) only beta is there a reliable alternative (other than Handbrake *wink *wink). ?
     
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    What's wrong with 2.6.6? I haven't had any problems with it in Leopard.
     
  8. Zuplar thread starter macrumors regular

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    well apparently it's just my movie i'm trying to rip. it is casino royale, which is on the list on handbrake's forum that can't be ripped. i'm pissed because i wanted to make a copy because it's scratched.
     
  9. TheStu macrumors 65816

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    Ah... I have heard that with some movies, you can defeat the copy protection (that is what you are running into) by starting the rip with Chapter 2 instead of Chapter 1. When you select Casino Royale, you will notice a drag down list in the upper left of the window 'Title'. Now, immediately to the right of this are 2 more drag down lists 'Chapter' Set the first one to 2 (instead of 1) and leave the other one where it is. That should do it.
     
  10. Zuplar thread starter macrumors regular

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    thanks, i'll give that a try. i'm ripping Transformers right now, and it seems to be working properly. i appreciate everyones help.
     
  11. TheStu macrumors 65816

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    The movies with the worst copy protection are usually Sony. I got Stranger than Fiction, and it took me forever to try to rip it. It was a Sony movie, and I would be willing to bet that Casino Royale is also a Sony movie, given that it is a 2 hour long Sony commercial. (Still a good movie, but I got tired of the blatant Sony advertising)
     
  12. Zuplar thread starter macrumors regular

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    lol, that's pretty funny but true.
     
  13. Zuplar thread starter macrumors regular

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    ok so now that i got my movie ripped, how do i burn it? it's just an .mp4 on the desktop, and i don't want to mess the dvd up.
     
  14. cowman007 macrumors regular

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    I had the exact problem. YOu can't copy Casino Rayal with Mac the Ripper. It is a new movie and as a result the copy protection is new. Download this.MAc the Ripper 3 beta and use it instead with lepard to burn Casino Royale

    http://www.divshare.com/download/572318-473
     
  15. Zuplar thread starter macrumors regular

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    well right now i am trying to burn the mp4 i made of transformers, so how should i go about doing that?
     
  16. TheStu macrumors 65816

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    You didn't say taht you wanted to burn it... I don't really know how to do that in OS X since I never bothered with burning. If I am ripping one of my DVDs, it is so i can compress it for later watching on the road when I don't have all my DVDs with me.
     
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    yeah the original thread was about ripping, i was just letting you know i got that figured out and that the post before you i was asking how to burn. right now it takes up 2 gig which is to big to just leave on the computer. i guess i could always compress it again couldn't i?
     
  18. Nettoda1 macrumors newbie

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    right on, worked great

    I follow step by step and worked the way it should, thank you
    keep up the great work.
     
  19. davidjearly macrumors 68020

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    Lets clear some things up.

    MacTheRipper = DVD Ripping Utility (Use this to 'rip' protected DVD's to your HDD in the DVD format (Video_TS) folder.

    Handbrake = DVD converter (Use this utility to 'rip' and encode protected DVD's to .mp4 files. For example, to play back on an iPod, AppleTV, etc).

    Do not use handbrake if you want to make backups of your DVD's. For this, you need to use MacTheRipper, and then a piece of burning software like Roxio's Popcorn (Simple) or Toast (Advanced) to make the copy.

    David

    Links: Roxio Popcorn & Roxio Toast.
     
  20. Cromulent macrumors 603

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    Rip with Mac the Ripper and then encode with Handbrake. Mac the Ripper is better at beating DVD copy protection than Handbrake and thus should be used to make your backups. Plus it keeps them in exactly the same quality.
     
  21. davidjearly macrumors 68020

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    Not to make a DVD backup. To make a DVD backup, rip with MacTheRipper, then burn the resulting Video_TS folder to disc using Toast or Popcorn.

    For making movies playable on an iPod, Handbrake is excellent.

    David
     
  22. GSMiller macrumors 68000

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    I'm glad someone finally explained this so people would understand. If you rip with Handbrake you will have to burn it with a program like iDVD, but the quality is no where near as good as it would if you ripped with MTR and burnt it to disc with DVD2one or Toast.
     
  23. cycocelica macrumors 68000

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    Glad someone explained this before I had to.

    Personally I like DVD2OneX over Toast or Popcorn.

    Oh and if you are going to use MTR, I would highly suggest donating so you get the best one version for all the newest DVDs. Keep 2.6.6 as well, because even some of the newest DVDs will rip better with 2.6.6
     
  24. Cromulent macrumors 603

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    Well I would have assumed that was pretty obvious. Although you could always just back your DVDs up on your hard drive if you were so inclined.

    Edit :

    Why would you use iDVD? Just encode to MPEG-4 and then use Toast to burn the DVD.

    As for quality of course it is going to be worse. You go from the original source material when the film was made to DVD which uses MPEG-2 video - a lossy format, which you rip and encode using Handbrake to another lossy format and then back to MPEG-2 when you burn the DVD. That is three lots of quality degradation. The best way as you say is to rip using Mac the Ripper and either store it on your hard drive or NAS or burn it using Toast using the correct sized DVD so dual or single layer depending on the film.
     

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