DVD ripping and Handbrake

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  1. Omnius macrumors 6502a

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    How long does it take to rip and convert DVDs and Blu-rays with a 2011 model mini using an external USB optical drive?
     
  2. mdgm macrumors 6502a

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    Which 2011 Mini?
     
  3. Omnius thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    For this purpose only the server would really be different. And not the server.
     
  4. Macman45 macrumors G5

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    First you need a Blu Ray optical drive ( I use the new Asus) then you need the Make MKV app which allows you to rip the movie to MKV format. From there you run that file through Handbrake using your desired preset. Blu Ray movies do take a while if you use Hi Buddy though....I've had the take over two hours using the TV pre set. You could of course just rip to MKV and view them via VLC using streaming, but if you want the portability, you need HB
     
  5. Omnius thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I was really only interested in time and maybe comparison to how long it takes vs like a quad core mini or 8 core 1,1 pro
     
  6. mdgm macrumors 6502a

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    Well there are a lot of variables here like:

    DVD vs Blu-Ray
    Quality and length of movie on Blu-Ray or DVD
    What CPU you have in your Mini (there are different speed dual-core CPU options that could be chosen as CTO upgrades for the 2011 Mini)
    Speed of Optical Drive
    Whether you intend to rip and encode a DVD using Handbrake directly or rip to your hard drive then encode it using Handbrake (if the former the speed of the optical drive may be the bottleneck).
    What quality you want the encoded video to be etc.
    etc.
     
  7. Omnius, Mar 1, 2013
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    Omnius thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    the clock speeds weren't very diverse so it ought not be a huge difference. Of course when providing data, one should provide their variables......
    As stated earlier, I'm more interested in about someone actual times with someone listing the variables for how they do it than listing the obvious factors that contribute divorced from the results.
     
  8. kobyh15 macrumors 6502a

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    I have the early 2011 13" MBP with the 2.7 i7 (same part that is in the high end 2011 nonserver Mini). Thermal constraints could be different but running Handbrake on a 1080p .mkv file ripped from a Blu-ray disc takes about 5.5 - 6 hours using the ATV 3 preset. A .mkv file ripped from a DVD takes about an hour using the ATV 3 preset. Your mileage may vary.
     
  9. LucasLand macrumors 6502a

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    i just got my hand smacked by a moderator. isn't it wrong to rip a dvd?
     
  10. blueroom macrumors 603

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    As long as you own the DVD.
     
  11. frank4, Mar 2, 2013
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    I've HandBrake ripped a few standard DVDs on a base 2011 Mini and it usually takes in the low 20 minute range, say 23 minutes average. Less time than I expected. HandBrake is a pretty cool program and has a lot of flexibility, can be used to do other things such as reformatting older or non-Apple video files so they play on iPad.

    I use the HB default settings but adjust the output quality slider slightly because it makes the output file about 25% smaller, and I can't see any degradation on my 22" LCD.

    CPU goes near maximum 350 to 380%. Fan speeds up under supervision of the Fan Control app by Lobotomo from download.cnet.com.
     
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  13. scottsjack macrumors 68000

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    I rip all of mine. My favorites are the $4.99 previously viewed ones on sale at Walgreens. I've never even watched most of them from the disk.

    For DVDs I prefer Ripit.
     
  14. Non-Euclidean macrumors member

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    I'm with him. Average DVD rip time is 20-30 ,minutes max. No BD data, since I only have the DVD drive for my Mac, I'll rip my few BDs on my PC, since I got it a drive recently, and is so much cheaper and upgrade with the PC over the Mac. I am ripping with MakeMKV. Conversion of DVDs in Handbrake takes 40-80 minutes or so, depending upon the type of movie, and other loads on the system. I usually go nuts, and am continually ripping on both Mac and PC, and queueing up things in handbrake ASAP.
    Mid 2011 i5 2.5G with 8G RAM (yeah, I should have gotten 16).
     
  15. shortcut3d macrumors 65816

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    The 2011 Mac mini's using DVDfab typically rip a blu-ray in about 30-60 minutes to mkv. Depends on the size and Cinavia. The drive also makes a difference. I have a portable bus powered LaCie Blu-ray.

    The 2011 Mac mini server will get 16-18fps max in Handbrake ATV3 profile for a blu-ray source mkv. This is with 186MHz RAM and SSDs. I get the same on my 2011 15" MBP and 2010 27" iMac. The same systems using AT2 settings get over 30fps.
     
  16. ActionableMango, Mar 7, 2013
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    If the disc is encrypted, then it is illegal in the United States and many other countries to circumvent the encryption.

    A lot of people mistakenly think that this is 100% legal to do if you own the disc and use decrypted results to make a single backup copy for personal use only (fair use copyright exemption). I cannot speak for other countries, but court cases in the USA have been split on the issue of the fair use copyright exemption.

    The way case law works can seem strange. Technically, if you live within the jurisdiction of the courts that have found the exemption to be legal, then you are okay. If you live within the jurisdiction of the courts that have found the exemption to be illegal, then you are breaking the law. If you live in an area where the courts have not ruled, then you are in an untested area. There will not be uniformity until this law is brought before the US Supreme Court or until it is amended by Congress for additional clarity.
     
  17. Non-Euclidean macrumors member

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    Yup, the legislative turd known as the DMCA makes this illegal. The DCMA violates established fair-use case law though. It will take Supreme Court review to see where it ends up.
     
  18. jlluna macrumors 6502

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    Ever since i got my new 2012 i7 2.6 mini with fusion.I used handbreak to copy a bluray mkv file and it did it in about 2 to 3 hours apple 3 tv setting. my old 2010 mac computer use to take 6 to 8 hours.
     
  19. CausticPuppy macrumors 65816

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    I'll let you know this weekend. I just got my Asus blu-ray drive and I'll be ripping some BR movies to MKV, and also transcoding to iTunes format. I assume transcoding takes more time than just ripping to MKV.

    I have the 2011 server (2.0GHz quad core).
     
  20. CausticPuppy macrumors 65816

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    OK, I'm currently ripping my first Blu-Ray... The Empire Strikes Back from the Star Wars 6-disc set.

    Ripping the MKV file took about two hours, and was single-threaded (only 1 cpu core used). Plex plays the MKV natively on OS X, and looks great. No quality loss from the original disc.

    I'm also transcoding to MP4 so that I can stream it to my AppleTV from iTunes (1080p format). That process is taking longer, running around 750% CPU utilization. I'm 26% done and it still has 3.5 hours to go. On a dual-core machine this would definitely be an overnight job!

    Also, my Mini has been running nearly maxed-out for over an hour now and it's barely warm to the touch. The cooling fan is definitely going at full blast but it's not really that loud.


    I just realized my iTunes server was still running and using up 80% cpu for whatever reason... so after closing iTunes it's converting slightly faster.
     
  21. jlluna macrumors 6502

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    Just wondering. What settings are you using with handbreak apple tv3,high profile or Apple TV 2 setting?
     
  22. CausticPuppy macrumors 65816

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    I used the Apple TV3 setting even though I only have an Apple TV2. It'll play just fine, although downsampled to 720p.


    I'm ripping The Avengers now-- I realized I forgot to install the DASPI extension for the first disc. With the kernel extension it's ripping much, much faster. About 25 minutes to rip a movie instead of 2 hours. I think I'm limited by USB 2.0 on my Mac Mini-- My Blu-Ray drive supports USB3.0 so I wonder how much faster it would be?
     
  23. jlluna macrumors 6502

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    Great info! Thanks buddy! The same settings I use. I also use my Apple TV 2 more than my Apple TV 3, just cause my Apple TV 2 is jailbroken:)
     

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