DVD Ripping/Encoding for iTunes Library Question

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by Wicked1, Sep 11, 2011.

  1. Wicked1 macrumors 68040

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    Ok, so I started ripping 200 of 600 dvd's and it is starting to take up a lot of space for both the ripped discs on my external drive, and now the encoded file in iTunes, roughly on average 12-15GB per movie. I am using Apple TV defaults which work well. Some Ripped DVD's like Toy Story 3 take up to 80GB of disc space to rip.

    My question is does anyone just encode straight to disk and avoid keeping a Ripped version on an external disk? I think I seem to be wasting my time ripping and then encoding everything only because I plan on keeping all my DVD's anyway.

    What is everyone else out there doing.
     
  2. alust2013 macrumors 601

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    How is a DVD taking up 80GB? If it is, something is wrong, since the biggest DVDs hold 8.7GB (dual layer), and even blu-ray discs don't hold that much (50GB max for a movie). So you should really be getting files around 2GB (which is actually pretty decent quality).
     
  3. mpshay macrumors 6502

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    What program are you using. The ATV preset in handbrake should give you a file 2gb or smaller.
     
  4. stordoff macrumors regular

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    Something is going horribly wrong somewhere. One DVD has a maximum capacity of about 8.5GB, and a high quality rip of a film will be 2-3GB. In total, assuming you keep a raw copy of a 2 DVD set AND a version for iTunes, you are looking at about 20GB maximum.
     
  5. dlegend macrumors 6502

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    I've seen a 80gb movie before. It's when the movie is protected. It's not really 80 GBs of movie, just crap.

    But, back to your question, I rip them, then eventually encode a big batch and then delete the original copy.
     
  6. From A Buick 8 macrumors 68040

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    This is correct, some protection schemes (especially ones used by Disney) do this, they add several repeats of the film most of the time with non standard starting points and when ripped these are read as being real data and can exceed 50GB (when ripped)

    Like dlegend said just rip the DVD using something like RipIt (if on a Mac) and then use HB with the ATV2 preset for the movie only file and it will be about 2GB.

    PS I have a DVD collection of over 500 DVD's took from Oct of 2010 to Jan of 2011 to get them all into iTunes. I would rip about 10, them batch them all through HB.

    I then used iDentify to tag them and add them to iTunes.

    Then delete the "ripped" file, your original DVD is your full copy backup.
     
  7. Wicked1 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I am using a Mac and RipiT for Ripping and HB for Encoding, I am using ATV Format sicne I have both ATV and ATV2 so I need a universal method which works on both.

    I think I will RIP and Delete, too much wasted space.

    Another Question can you use HB to Encode right from DVD bc process to Rip takes way too long, and lately I am getting message to PAD VOB or Delete VOB and it is slowing me down.
     
  8. rayyu882 macrumors member

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    Yes, you can. That's how I did it for my DVD collection.
     
  9. jmhays macrumors member

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    I use a Windows computer and rip my DVDs using AnyDVD and then use HandBrake to make the container (MKV). I also rip a bunch at a time (20-25) and then enter them all into HandBrake and run HandBrake in batch mode.

    A batch of 20-25 movies usually runs all night so by the time I have my next 20-25 movies ready, HandBrake is already complete with it's work.

    I am looking at 17 movies that I just ripped and they average 7GB per movie for the rip of the complete movie and all extras on the disc. After HandBrake runs it's magic, the file is between 1-2GB for SD movies. I have not started ripping any BluRay movies so I can't comment on those yet.

    I have never received a message to PAD or Delete VOB, so I can't help with that part.
     
  10. KevinC867 macrumors 6502a

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    I recently switched from RipIt to MakeMKV for ripping discs. MakeMKV seems to do a good job defeating tricky copy protection schemes and I like the fact that it produces a single output file per title, not the full VOB structure of the original disc.

    MakeMKV runs pretty very fast for me (about 10 minutes for a DVD movie). That allows me to rip a bunch of them and just drop them into handbrake's queue to be encoded overnight.
     
  11. Wicked1 thread starter macrumors 68040

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    My only issue is I can not use ATV2 preset as I have an ATV and it will not read an ATV2 preset encoded movie? so unless I want to buy another ATV2 I have no choice but to Encode using ATV preset.
     
  12. mstrze macrumors 68000

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    While you certainly CAN do it this way, you risk destroying your optical drive with the additional wear-and-tear. With a ripping program, you spin the disc for some 15-20 minutes until it's fully ripped into the computer. If you encode directly from DVD, you are spinning the disc for however long it takes to encode, probably around 2-3 hours per disc, depending on processor speed.

    Encoding directly from DVD is 6-times more 'punishing' to your optical drive than simply ripping and then encoding.
     

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