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Dvorak Crucifies iMac

BrianKonarsMac said:
basically. don't get me wrong, i love my ipod (1st gen). since i've had it tho, the ipod hasn't gone very far other than increased storage. i like many of iRiver's features, but they have a POS interface and poor product design. if you merged the two you would have the best of both worlds IMO.

i am mad because apple offers NO options. you either get a white/chrome ipod, or you don't get an ipod. you either use apple's white ear buds or get your own (which is better option anyways since you'll get better sound). they offer NO choice, with any of their products really (you either use Aqua or you use a haxie and theme it, 1 button mouse or 3rd party, aluminum or nothing, their system font and system icons or haxie, etc, etc).

i had switched to apple under the assumption that OS X was still in it's infancy and true user customization would follow once it was stable (this was during 10.1). 10.2 came around with performance, but no customization, 10.3 same thing, 10.4 i'm not holding my breath.

in order to continue to grow and prosper (which apple seems to be doing quite well these days) they need to CONTINUE to innovate, not allow their products to stagnate while the competition catches up (which for some reason it has failed to do as one company after another releases horrendous Apple imitations).

i'm mad at apple for not continuing to wow me.
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So rather than focusing on making well engineered products that work, you would rather have them spend their time allowing you to color code your iPod?
Frankly I'd rather they keep doing things the way they are now. If you want a colored iPod you can get one, either a mini, use a skin or get it painted.
I'd rather Apple continue making their OS robust and secure as possible instead of boggin it down with all sorts of themes and skins.
I'd rather Apple make the iPod work as good as possible than wasting resources coloring it.

Now if your only complaint is you can't have some grotesque Windows-esque haxie on your OS well then I'd say you should get your priorities in order.
 
Dvorak is in my mind, completely off base here. First off calling this bulky is like saying how sleek the new eMachine is, honestly man. Secondly why would you want to be looking at ports in the front of your computer, I have a Linux box that I built, the case has some ports in the front that I have never ever used, I much prefer to hide the cables in the back.

I'm going to have to order a 20" iMac now, just to prove this clown wrong.
 
BrianKonarsMac said:
basically. don't get me wrong, i love my ipod (1st gen). since i've had it tho, the ipod hasn't gone very far other than increased storage. i like many of iRiver's features, but they have a POS interface and poor product design. if you merged the two you would have the best of both worlds IMO.

i am mad because apple offers NO options. you either get a white/chrome ipod, or you don't get an ipod. you either use apple's white ear buds or get your own (which is better option anyways since you'll get better sound). they offer NO choice, with any of their products really (you either use Aqua or you use a haxie and theme it, 1 button mouse or 3rd party, aluminum or nothing, their system font and system icons or haxie, etc, etc).
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I don't believe the iRiver comes with any options either.
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Center of Attention

I always read Dvorak. I enjoy his perspective. I don't believe Apple is losing its focus though. IMHO all the attention to the iPod is just a way to drive business to the Mac. The iPod has been very successful in making the Apple brand a even more of a household name. I see it with people I know that never even considered buying a Mac before. Now that they have an iPod, they are on the Apple website drooling over the new iMac. The marketing works :)

The iPod may or may not be a flash in the pan, but Apple needs to continue to do whatever they can to play out this hand to the max. They should drive as many people to the iMac, iBook, Power Mac and PowerBook as possible. Not only will this be good for the company in the long run, it will be good for computing. Not because of Apple's hardware, but because of OS X. Windows is so vulnerable it has become a nuisance and instead of making people more efficient, it is the cause of much wasted time. The growth of Apple's popularity (due to the iPod) could lead to more Mac's in the workplace, which in turn could lead to greater productivity. The iPod could be the door to all of this. Sound too grand? I don't think so ;)
 
dieselg4 said:
you either get a white/chrome ipod, or you don't get an ipod.
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iPod Mini = choices. Oh yeah, it doesn't hold a trillion music files like the white one. How many popular non-Apple MP3 players come in more than one style?

you either use apple's white ear buds or get your own
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How is this any different than any other personal music player in the world? Personal CD players only include a basic set of head phones. Personal cassette players (do they even sell these any more?) come/came with basic head phones. Other MP3 players come with basic head phones.

you either use Aqua or you use a haxie and theme it
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Why not just leave the choice to the user? If you want to mod, then go ahead--no one is stopping you. If you're satisfied with the default theme, then leave it and not worry about it. Winblows XP only comes with three different color schemes.

1 button mouse or 3rd party
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If you don't like the mouse, spend $20 and get a new one. PCs come with basic two button mice; what if the user wants a 15 button-optical-usb-über-scroll mouse? Should they be pissed at the computer company for not giving them something other than a basic starter mouse?

aluminum or nothing
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Unless you build your own PC, you are stuck with one choice. Dull has their standard black/gray cases. IBMs are black. Yatta yatta.

Why do people expect Apple to do everything for them? Why do they expect Apple to satisfy the individual needs of millions of different people?

Everything from cars to electronics come with basic accessories and setups. If the user wants to change an accessory that they aren't happy with, they are free to do so.
 
BrianKonarsMac said:
basically. don't get me wrong, i love my ipod (1st gen). since i've had it tho, the ipod hasn't gone very far other than increased storage.
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Sure, but the walkman remained essentially unchanged for 20 years (until cassettes essentially died). Other than colors and a radio, what changed? Do you want a "rugged" iPod (or whatever those yellow, rubbery walkmen were called)?

To me, the lack of change, adn continued popularity, suggests they got it right the first time, and have made modest improvements as technology allows (e.g., bigger storage).

As for colors and what not, what other computer maker gives you that choice? They're black, beige, or charcoal, and generally only one of those from each manufacturer. Not much more choice there.
 
personally i think the new iMac is abosultely awesome. someone mentioned but being "wowed" by Apple anymore. personally i'm wowed every second that i'm with my 12" PB. if you complain about Apple not being creative and moving forward then take a second out of your day and go try to use Jaguar after using Panther every day. I also agree that Apple should use the iPod as a marketing tool (i think i remember reading an article with Steve and about how that was the point of the iPod and iTunes being available to Windows users in the first place).

i mean just think about all the inovative stuff that Apple does.

* pushing the industry to use USB, bluetooth, firewire, wireless networking, and zeroconf.

* xgrid while not a new idea is done in a really easy and effective way so that anyone can use.

* the PowerMac G5 is a beautiful and powerful engineering marvel (IMHO ;) )

* remember all the news about not knowing all the capabilities of the new generation iPod? i'm personally waiting for annoucements.

* iTMS - revolutionary. say anything else and you're fooling yourself. it's the first working and profitable model for online music sales.

* iPod - revolutionized the mobile MP3 market. there's a reason they have the market share, it freakin rocks. i'll agree that they haven't add a lot of things to it, but at the moment i don't really see anything too pressing that they should add. all the other players i've seen out there either blatently copy the iPod or add half working or useless features. Apple will update the iPod, it's a huge market for them and i doubt they'd let it fall by the waste-side to other companies products.

just my half-asleep trying to drink caffine to wake up $.02
 
Cooknn said:
The growth of Apple's popularity (due to the iPod) could lead to more Mac's in the workplace, which in turn could lead to greater productivity. The iPod could be the door to all of this. Sound too grand? I don't think so ;)
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Since I'm in charge of making a small (6-8 computer) IT purchase soon, the iMac couldn't come at a better time. And the $1299 price point for the lowend version is ideal--probably better than a Dell equivalent, and I don't need DVD burners and huge HDs in teh office.
 
The man has also said he hates keynote addresses in general. Predicted the death of e-mail and chat. He says computer hobbyists are a thing of the past. America is culturally bland. DivX is the next big thing. You should have to have a license to use a computer. He cracks wise about the iSight but thinks the video function on digital cameras is an important selling point. Apple is going to port OSX to Intel and and offer OSX for PC's as a stand-alone retail software product in 2004. In late 2004/early 2005, Apple will roll out its own x86 based machine, and move away from the PowerPC chip. Failing to make sick jokes about 9/11 means you are humorless. IBM is toast. Apple can't come up with a new idea. Satellite radio is doomed. Internet radio is doomed. Television is doomed. Windows XP is going to rock.

And on, and on, and on....
 
Sure, Schiller is'nt to most fashionably attired guy this side of Togo but how could this guy dare criticize anyone on their clothing choice:

Take that! Mr. John-Canari-Yellowed-Yucky-Muck-Green-Coated-Pablum-Poopy-Brown-Pantalooned-Lunatic-Starved-For-Attention-Dvorak!

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P.S.: I'm only writing this caustic post because I crave the resulting attention.

LOL! If your browser display icons before URLs, look at this: http://www.dvorak.org
The guy use his own face as a logo for his website.

Just read his bio: http://www.execnet.com/index.html?page=dvorak.html
The guy wrote for MacUser?
 

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Flowbee said:
The reason he writes stuff like this is because he knows it will generate a ton of hits and emails. And that's the only way he can prove to his publisher how popular and important he is.
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I think you are right. I'll quote one of his article as proof:

Dvorak said:
Maybe this will be the year of the iMac. I hate to admit it, but I like the new iMac Luxo-lamp look-alike. I'd much rather find something about it that I could ridicule, since that would get more readers.
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This quote is from an article he wrote January 11, 2002: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,92157,00.asp

Some of the mac related articles he wrote over the years:

Apple will go Intel within 18 months
Mar 20 2003
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,939886,00.asp

E-Mac, i-Mac, No Mac
Jun 17 2002
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1885,00.asp

Dvorak blames the Mac for falling computer sales
Feb 13 2001
http://www.macworld.com/news/2001/02/13/dvorak/
(No link to original article)

Dvorak: Apple's 'Real People' campaign desperate
Jun 25 2002
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,263476,00.asp

It's the Games, Stupid!
March 11, 2004
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1545392,00.asp
 
Le Big Mac said:
Since I'm in charge of making a small (6-8 computer) IT purchase soon, the iMac couldn't come at a better time. And the $1299 price point for the lowend version is ideal--probably better than a Dell equivalent, and I don't need DVD burners and huge HDs in the office.
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If you don't want to spend all your time trying to get rid of malware and viruses on Windows boxes you'll be wise to go with the iMac's. You and your users will be more productive and you'll have the best OS available today and probably for a long time in the future ;)
 
Addressing several things

1. It was mentioned early on that mac doesnt give you enough options or enough ways to customize your system. I have been a mac user since the the apple IIe and quite frankly ran every customization I could for years. I can remember trying my best to get as many icons load up at startup on OS 8. And then I grew up. I realized that it is better to have something simple, well designed and effective than something that you can turn any gaudy color you want. Do you paint a hammer? no you buy it and use it because it is effective and is the best tool for the job. It does what it needs to do.
2. As far as the imac design, I am impressed. There is plenty of flexibility and form followed function. But it is still very stylish. I think they will be more impressive in person.
3. As far as dvorak and the nay sayers, let them say nay and I will still go about using my Mac while they say nay, because that is all they are good for, saying nay!!!
 
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