Dvorak on recent iPad reviews

Discussion in 'iPad' started by barkomatic, Jun 29, 2010.

  1. barkomatic macrumors 68040

    Aug 8, 2008
    He's not technically commenting on the iPad itself, but rather the lack of criticism of the iPad by other reviewers. It's an interesting read, and I agree to an extent--everyone seems to write that the iPad is a "game changer" but yet cannot clearly articulate why exactly. He is dead on in that many Apple owners are instantly enraged when an Apple product (particularly one that they own) is criticized in any way. I think its the result of people using Apple products as an enhancement of their own identity with a little materialsim thrown in.

    I have an iPad and for me its a device for a few specific purposes. Its a laptop replacement during recreational travel (watching movies, internet, etc) and its a better device to watch *some* media on. Some of the games are fun.

    I think its an interesting *additional* perspective for those considering an iPad.

    Here is the article:

  2. Julien macrumors G4


    Jun 30, 2007
    So it's a "game changer" for you since it replaced you laptop and a better media device but no one else?:confused::D
  3. afireintonto macrumors 6502a


    Jul 22, 2008
    When I comes to any product, who cares what anyone else thinks. It's yours, if you like it- awesome! If you don't, take it back! Who cares what some person on the internet says.
  4. sishaw macrumors 65816


    Jan 12, 2005
    Dvorak is not without a point, there is a certain amount of pro-Apple fawning going on, but you have to keep in mind that Dvorak has been writing blatantly anti-Apple columns for YEARS. He is simply not objective, and, while I haven't kept score, I believe he is often wrong regarding Apple.
  5. dgree03 macrumors 65816


    Jan 8, 2009
    Article is true, its a toy, that does nothing more than my laptop. Just more portable.

    It has its uses but like the article say, if i put my Ipad into the closet my life wouldnt change 1 bit. I cannot say the same about my laptop, my ipod, or my tv.
  6. mouthster macrumors regular

    Apr 22, 2005
    Classic Dvorak. He's entertaining and this is just his schtick. Around the time Apple announced the switch to Intel processors, he predicted that Apple would phase out OS X and switch to Windows with an OS X style "skin". Obviously we all know how ridiculous that is. You can't take him too seriously with certain subjects. Apple is probably at the top of that list.
  7. brentsg macrumors 68040

    Oct 15, 2008
    I've always enjoyed reading Dvorak but yeah, his Apple comments have to be taken with a grain of salt.

    And every product has the kind of fans he's describing. It's fodder for internet arguments and not much else.
  8. phpmaven macrumors 68040


    Jun 12, 2009
    San Clemente, CA USA
    Just about everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt. He can be entertaining, but he's wrong and way off base about 98% of the time.
  9. barkomatic thread starter macrumors 68040

    Aug 8, 2008
    Again, I said I agree to an extent--and it has most definately not replaced my laptop. I'm not sure its quite a "game changer" for me, since I travel recreationally only about 4-6 times a year or so. It's a big convenience to have then certainly.

    The rest of the time I spend at home I'm usually on my laptop now that the novelty of the iPad has worn off a bit. The screen is bigger, the CPU faster and I can manage content more effectively. I'd rather watch netflix on my TV.

    If I give it to my mother, who doesn't have an internet connection nor use for a full-fledged laptop--I think it is a game changer for her. The simplified interface would be perfect for her.
  10. mouthster macrumors regular

    Apr 22, 2005
    I think the iPad is a "game changer". Laptops and netbooks are derivatives of the desktop PC. You have your screen, keyboard and pointing device (mouse, trackpad, or thumb-nub). Tablet PC's introduced some kind of direct manipulation on the screen, but the design is still tacked on to the desktop model. All these are just desktop PC's with a desktop OS on smaller, portable hardware.

    The iPad eschews the desktop OS and desktop input methods. You might be doing the same stuff on an iPad that you would on a laptop/netbook, but how you do it is different and IMHO "game changing" for the industry.
  11. masterjedi73 macrumors 6502


    Jan 12, 2004
    Hmm...I've never read his articles before, but I kinda agree with him. Being a new iPad owner (didn't buy it, it was a gift) I have been searching for good uses for it. Other than some free games, I haven't really found any yet. Is it cool? Hell yeah. I just don't know how I'm going to use it yet other than for couch surfing and mild gaming. I don't think I would have purchased one for myself.
  12. VTMac macrumors 6502

    Jun 9, 2008

    As always, he's completely and utterly wrong on this topic. The iPad is a game changer for anyone who isn't technical, that currently struggles with their existing laptop or desktop. These people tend to have to call GeekSquad type service 4-6 times a year. These people use Macs and PCs. These people probably have never heard of macrumors.

    I have personal experience watching 7 of these types of users with the iPad. The difference for them is astounding.

    For me, like others have said, the iPad is a nice to have. But it couldn't possibly replace any of my desktops or laptops.

    But it's really not made for me.
  13. notjustjay macrumors 603


    Sep 19, 2003
    Canada, eh?
    I honestly don't know what's up with all the inflammatory responses to the iPad. It seems to be truly a "love it or hate it" device, and some people (dare I say "most" people?) seem to project their own opinions onto others.

    We thus get two polar opposite responses:

    "It does not fit into my lifestyle, therefore the iPad is an UTTERLY USELESS DEVICE and you are an idiot for buying one."


    "The iPad is a completely revolutionary, magical device that's LIGHT-YEARS beyond anything else in the industry. It will change the world and you are an idiot if you can't see that."

    The other day somebody on this forum called me a douche because I said that (a) the iPad has totally replaced my own need for a netbook (I sold it last week) and (b) that the touchscreen interface to Google Earth is a lot more fun to use than a mouse and keyboard. Go figure.

    I happen to really like my iPad -- moreso than I liked my iPod touch -- but I'm not going to pretend it doesn't have its flaws, nor do I think that it belongs in everyone's household. But I don't know why so much hate. Just because you like Nike shoes doesn't mean I'm going to dump on you because I prefer Reeboks.
  14. reckless2k2 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 10, 2008
    iPhone anyone

    I think this is the same guy that said the iPhone wasn't a game changer. Hahaha. It's evident that the iPhone was a game changer.

    Now, let's look at the iPad. The mere fact that "X" amount of companies were rushing to produce similar devices before or around the iPad announcement makes me kind of think it's already a game changer. The evolution has yet to be recognized just like the early iPhone adoption.

    iOS has already changed the way we interact with devices. The form factor is just expanding.
  15. topmounter macrumors 68020


    Jun 18, 2009
    FEMA Region VIII
    To JCD's main point, some of the media coverage of the iPad (and other Apple products) has gotten rather ridiculous. I saw that Wired article and thought much the same thing, what an underwhelming list of apps.

    For me the iPad serves the purpose I bought it for, web browsing on the couch or in bed when I don't want to lug my MBP around and burn the hair off the tops of my legs.

    Unlike the experience of getting an iPhone after using WinMo and Symbian phones or getting an iPOD after using a Sony Minidisc player, I still don't get all the "it changed my life with all its amazingness and magicalness" hyperbole that the iPad gets.
  16. blackNBUK macrumors 6502a

    Feb 19, 2010
    I found the article rather bizarre; Dvorak complaining about sensationalist click-bait articles is more than a little ironic.

    As to why he's doesn't like the iPad there really wasn't a lot of meat there. It seemed to come down to the it's useless and/or it's doesn't replace anything arguments. I think these really miss the point; I don't care that I can do everything I do on my iPad on my laptop when my iPad is so much more convenient. The fact I can use it comfortably on the couch without worrying about the many little problems of a full OS (battery life, CPU/Memory usage, updates etc.) makes the iPad a game-changer for me.
  17. dennisj00 macrumors member

    Oct 2, 2009
    I think it's revolutionary for the publishing business. Particularly magazines and newspapers. It will take a few months for them to catch up with their readers / pricing / subscriptions but check back in a few months to see the change happening.

    I've already cancelled my daily newspaper (Mon-Friday) as a subscriber for way too many years and download the e-edition (flash on the laptop plus pdf) and move the pdf to the iPad to read.

    While I'm not lazy, I can do this quicker than walking to the mailbox to get the hardcopy. And I don't have to put all the papers in the recycling!

    The iPad may save newspapers.
  18. imac2007 macrumors member

    Oct 31, 2007
    non geeks

    I think in time the ipad will really start taking off not to just the geeks in the world but to people that are afraid of computers. I had a friend come over a week ago he would never touch a computer but I showed him my ipad with in a half hour he was getting into it. He was afraid off the mouse the key board and with that gone and just his finger he found the internet. He has purchased one of his own and is learning how to use it I think there will be more people like my friend wanting something easy to use it will take time but it will keep selling more and more.
  19. pooryou macrumors 65816


    Sep 28, 2007
    It's a game changer because of the form factor and how you interact with it.
    Not hard to articulate at all.
  20. Zimmy68 macrumors 68000


    Jul 23, 2008
    I love cranky old Dvorak!
    Of course he is right but I view those articles not as journalism but a, "hey, you are a geek also, you will love this" sort of thing.
    It doesn't bother me.
    What the dude at WSJ does irks me a little.
    I used to check his reviews because he was always hard on devices. (Mossberg?)
    Now I see him giving high fives with Jobs all the time.

    Bonus from this thread... Check out his excellent why the Kinect will fail article.
    Agree 100%
  21. spinedoc77 macrumors G3


    Jun 11, 2009
    I agree on all the apple fawning, but look at the fawning over the tiny hardware upgrade of the iphone4.

    The iPad, unlike the iphone4, is truly a "game changer". I'll. Put out the 3 reasons why. Battery life, portability and instant on. You find me a device which does these things which were released before or at the same time of the iPad, guess what they didn't exist. Sure you can say smart phones, but the physical package of the iPad is a true PC instead of a smartphone. Apple created this and other companies will copy them, I would certainly call the device TO FIRST DO THESE THINGS a game changer. The first PC was a game changer, the first laptop was a game changer. iPad brings ubiquitous portability, you don't have the reasons you used to have to leave it at home. You don't worry about booting up, you don't worry about battery, you just take it with you. No one has accomplished this, not Microsoft with their years and years of making tablets, and certainly no one else has done it successfully.

    This is what dvorak is missing, that jolt that the future us here and all those sic fi movies we would watch where they had handheld tablets has hit us.
  22. saberahul macrumors 68040

    Nov 6, 2008
  23. brentsg macrumors 68040

    Oct 15, 2008
    Maybe it's just me but it seems like people are getting to be more and more like this in general lately. It doesn't seem to matter if it's electronics, politics, sports, whatever.
  24. topmounter macrumors 68020


    Jun 18, 2009
    FEMA Region VIII

    At least one did... the iPod Touch... it has excellent battery life, portability and instant on. Granted, the screen is larger and that makes a big difference in its magicalness, but that's the only significant difference between the two devices.
  25. RIMiPod macrumors newbie

    Sep 29, 2006
    It's a game changer for me...

    We must remember that the iPad was never meant to be a computer replacement, but a tool to enhance the user experience at the basic level and power efficiency. This was also where they made the decision whether to go full netbook.

    Then they worked to refine and added email, web, music player and a little office app support--many of which were borrowed from iPhone apps. So it's not a full computer per se, though the device has all components of a basic computer.

    I would step up the iPad game by adding more features like video camera and more memory while making sure they don't cannibalize their laptop sales with matching functionalities, but market trend has it's course for mobility.

    So again, it was never meant to be a laptop replacement and never will be. I hope I've helped some of you zero in on whether the iPad should replace computers.

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