If you use Zoom you can choose to see all the participants on the call. My Writing Group use it every week. What is noticeable is how bad the Amazon Fire HD is. The video stutters/pixelates all the time. The video from my 2012 15in MBP is on a par with all the others (except the Amazon device) in the group. That is really all that is needed.
It must be a defective unit, since mine and my son’s is working just fine.
It is more embarrassing to have a 2018 CPU in the base model...
Nope. Their score is affected also by specs, like a wider angle, more zoom or higher resolution, even if the results aren’t better.
If only this were true (see above). One only need to read through any new product release thread here – the new 13” MBP thread is a good recent choice – but I suggest doing so lying down.
What front cam are you referencing? Certainly not the iPhone 11's front cam. It's high def and can shoot 4K/60fps video just like your 11 Pro. The argument you're making doesn't apply to the iPhone 11. Heck the argument you're making doesn't even apply to the $400 iPhone SE.
I only mean that I don’t care what resolution a front-facing camera has, it’s all fine. I changed the “that” to an “if” which might help clarify.
I used iPhones pro Max doing WhatsApp video call with my sister, she thought I was on computer.
Interestingly, in both Spanish and Russian double-negatives are additive, no multiplicative. Certainly in Russian, you'll see sentences with a bunch of negatives. Extra negatives just add emphasis. Just FYI. (In English though, they're multiplicative, so "don't mean nothing" = "means something" (not "means everything", just "something"))
www.dxomark.com
To be honest, even though I think their tests are quite good and objective, I still think the results are sort of pointless.Granted, DXOMARK scores shouldn't be taken as gospel. At the same time, their testing is very sophisticated and thorough. This article provides an idea of what DXOMARK considers in its evaluations:
Smartphones vs Cameras: Closing the gap on image quality
At DXOMARK we have watched over the years as smartphone cameras have gone from being a novelty to becoming the world’s most popular way of capturing photographs. In a keynote session at Electronic Imaging 2020, our CEO and CTO, Frederic Guichard, began by providing a historical perspective on...
They write: "There are dozens of axes on which image quality can be measured, and hundreds of attributes. When we test cameras and sensors at DXOMARK, it requires over 1600 images in a variety of lab and natural environments to get a good measurement of its performance for the most important of these:"
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I would not be surprised to find that every single poster who dismissed the DXOMARK scores out of hand didn't bother to first try to understand what actually goes into DXOMARK testing. Because gathering information before posting takes work, and who wasts to work, right?
Joanna Stern for the Wall Street Journal said the problem with the MacBook camera is the cases are so thin it's hard to get a bigger camera in them. She said try comparing how thick the lid of your MacBook is sometime with how thick your phone is. She thought that most people would be fine trading off a slightly worse camera for a thinner computer, and I think that's probably right.
Good for you? In the age of the pandemic that's the only face to face time some people get.
I think I might've read that too, and I completely agree. Do i wish we had better cameras? Heck yeah! Am I willing to sacrifice the display thinness for it? No way...
There are lots of problems with these tests. You could see this with the Pixel 2 which seems to have gamed the test in a variety of ways but since they stopped gaming it, have seen their results relative to other cameras drop off. There's also a lot of subjectivity with what you are looking for in a camera, and it's kind of silly slapping a number on these results which gives them a faux sense of objectivity. I mean, giving a phone camera say a 103 mark and another a 106 mark, how does that tell you really anything about the quality of one camera over another? Those 3 points won't make any difference at all to anyone other than as part of a bragging contest. Moreover, since the results they're talking about are an average of the cameras (I'm talking about their marks overall, not the front facing cameras), even one could argue that these were truly objective scores, if phone X gets a higher mark than phone Y based on things you don't care about, say front facing camera or video, the overall results are meaningless.
HUH, my iPhone 11 Pro has a front facing camera ?? Who would’ve thunk it
DxOMark this week published the results of its in-depth review of the iPhone 11's 12MP front-facing camera. The device delivered "decent performance" and achieved an overall score of 91 points, but failed to make the overall top 10.
iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro share the same front-facing camera specifications, so the results are similar but with a number of key differences, such as focus distance. The fixed-focus lens of iPhone 11 was found to focus slightly closer than the lens on the iPhone 11 Pro Max, which resulted in subjects that are further away being out of focus. Another difference was that iPhone 11 failed to maintain sharpness as well as iPhone 11 Pro Max as the subject moved further away from the camera. Otherwise, most images taken with the two devices were extremely similar.
Video on the iPhone 11 front-facing camera was, however, found to be "slightly better" in color accuracy and noise-management than Apple's top-end smartphone. This advantage is, however, diminished by the focus issues, which are said to pose a potential problem for "users who work with longer selfie sticks or who shoot a lot of group selfies". The review concludes that iPhone 11 offers a "good option for selfie video capture, but not among the best we have seen."
The iPhone 11's overall DxOMark score of 91 was just one point lower than that of the iPhone 11 Pro Max at 92. The Huawei P40 Pro has performed best in DxOMark testing, with a score of 103. iPhone 11's front-facing camera is surpassed by 12 other smartphones. Overall, iPhone 11 is praised as "a capable option for selfie shooters, with its front camera delivering nice colors and good exposure in most situations," but "image output can be quite noisy and the fixed-focus lens, which is geared towards closer focusing distances."
DxO is a well-known French image lab that is noted for its attempts at assigning objective scores of smartphone camera quality, although they have been subject to some criticism from those who argue that camera quality is inherently subjective and thus can't be quantified with a score.
Article Link: DxOMark: iPhone 11 Front-Facing Camera 'Decent' but Misses Top 10
