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EA Announces Origin for Mac Alpha Testing
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Yes, for users, having more than one game centre might be annoying, but if you think a little further, I think it's quite strange this hasn't happened sooner.
Steam is made and owned by Valve. It's not a neutral partner just selling games. They are a competitor in the very competitive gaming industry, just look at Atari and THQ as an example.
So, selling your games at Steam also feeds one of your competitors, with your work.
Also, the main reason EA jumped ship on Steam, was that Valve enforced new rules that all DLCs had to be sold through Steam. It's not only EA that says this, NCsoft/ArenaNet among others say the same.
So if anything, it's Valves greed that made EA go this way. Now, I'm sure EA would have started Origin anyways, but I don't think the break would have been as strong as it's been now without Valves new rules.
You may dislike EA, I do, but starting Origin is not the worst EA has done. It's just good business sense.
Steam is made and owned by Valve. It's not a neutral partner just selling games. They are a competitor in the very competitive gaming industry, just look at Atari and THQ as an example.
So, selling your games at Steam also feeds one of your competitors, with your work.
Also, the main reason EA jumped ship on Steam, was that Valve enforced new rules that all DLCs had to be sold through Steam. It's not only EA that says this, NCsoft/ArenaNet among others say the same.
So if anything, it's Valves greed that made EA go this way. Now, I'm sure EA would have started Origin anyways, but I don't think the break would have been as strong as it's been now without Valves new rules.
You may dislike EA, I do, but starting Origin is not the worst EA has done. It's just good business sense.
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All EA is doing is looking at it from a business pov. Which sucks for users who actually play the games.
I would advise everybody not to download Origin and boycott it strongly.
Finding out Simcity is only playable with an internet connection killed it for me. (and no killing it isn't a good thing)
Gamers must be the only consumer group in the world who seem to think that less competition is good for them. Steam needs strong competition, which it doesn't have today.
BF3 for Mac is what I've been waiting for
http://pcgmedia.com/future-versions-of-eas-frostbite-engine-also-built-for-mac/
Kinda hard to find errors when all it currently does is login and display a library containing one mac game that nobody wants though.
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Considering you can still order the PC/Mac boxed version from EA themselves, Amazon, GAME and several other places... I bet £0 that that is what will happen. It's also been widely reported that Origin on mac will launch properly with the SimCity release in March.
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The more people downloading Origin, Steam etc. the less games there will be available thru the Mac App Store.
Finally you have the option to have just ONE account for everything yet all of you are stupid enough to walk away from it and use options that require a internet connection while playing.
Why are you guys not thinking straight?
Your guys are trowing in your own windows. Think about it!
Finally you have the option to have just ONE account for everything yet all of you are stupid enough to walk away from it and use options that require a internet connection while playing.
Why are you guys not thinking straight?
Your guys are trowing in your own windows. Think about it!
App store = inflated prices, or sucky games.
why
Apple takes 30% cut of sales, so EA, etc will add that to the cost so they get the same profit margin (EA already add that because they are greedy deckers, but thats a different rant), so if Mac Appstore was the only solution we go back to just using bootcamp, because that way we can pay 29.99 a game instead of 59.99 a game (or similar markup)
I like Steam, Valve has done really well to seperate the Valve tittles it sells, such as Portal, Half Life and Team Fortress, from the actual store, its a VERY friendly place for other publishers to use, and includes the friendliest DRM method I've come across (Screw you Securom and doubly Screw anyone who thinks an always on-line check for a single player game is useful)
As it stand i have a single log on for all my games, its called STEAM, i don't want the Mac Appstore to my sole repository of games, because many of them are MUTLIPLATFORM and so far steam is the only place that comes close to that.
EA just want All the profits for themselves, which is why Origin was rolled out, and why EAs games are no longer on steam, If it hadn't been for Mass Effect 3 Requiring the shoddy piece of crap i would never have installed it at all.
Now after EAs announced that sim city is going to be online checking and mac version delayed, not to mention EAs massive overpricing of games lately, especially in Digital format, £60 for a digital copy ? Really ? for that much i want a box with USB keys and glossy artwork books, EA.. See Blizzards Collectors Editions for what you should get for these prices.
Mac version delayed? Since when? Still stands as March 2013 everywhere I look.
sim city delayed , see original topic post, it has the link. the PC version is still going to hit on time, just not as a Dual PC/MAC release , presumably so EA can release it a couple of months later and charge more for it.
not that i think EA is a bunch of money grubbing *****s who are destroying the gaming industry or anything
Ah, didn't see that. Still not really delayed. Says Spring 2013 here which gives them until the middle of May. GTA V just got delayed by 6 months or longer. I'd rather they spend extra time on a native version for what's lets be honest, a much smaller market than the Windows version, rather than just a cider port to make the deadline.
Why would EA charge more for it? That's just baseless speculation. I'm guessing it will be exactly the same prices as the Windows versions on Origin.
Give me some money and I'll get the App Store versions.
Steam regularly offers games at HUGE and I mean HUGE discounts (sometimes over 75% off!) *AND* it gives me the Windows (and now Linux in some cases) version as well for FREE (or vice versa depending on how you look at it) and there sits the App Store version for full price. So, let's see, do I want to want to spend $8 for the Star Wars The Force Unleashed on sale at Steam with the Windows version as well or pay $19.99 on the Apple App Store and have no Windows version.... Gee, let my "stupid" self think there. Yeah, I went with the Steam version.
Having ONE stores defeats the entire point of competition lowering prices and my Steam example above proves the value of competition. I got Empire at War for like $10 also on sale. The App Store wants $29.99. Yeah, it's the PC version (Aspyr sometimes apparently doesn't like to deal with Steam?), but it runs well enough under VMWare as old as it is. In fact, you can afford to buy VMWare for the savings of just a few such games over the App Store ones and run any version of Windows you want (i.e. Even Win98 works well and lets you play games that crap out in Windows XP, 7 or 8).
you have WAY more faith in EA than i have then, i suspect they will take the opportunity to spin the mac version into a new SKU and charge an "apple premium" for it
going off past experience with EA and their money grabbing tactics i suspect there is no other reason for the "delay"
Screw the Mac App Store. Ridiculously priced shoddy ports. Steam is far better, not only cheaper, but you get copies for all the OSs it is available for and after installation and first run, you rarely need an internet connection to play a single player game.
The Mac App Store is rubbish when put in comparison to Steam. That aside, with EA being total Nazis about their games now, you have no choice but to use Origin if you want to play one of their games.
Even though the developers themselves, from Maxis, not EA, have said the delay is due to it being a native version? They've printed on the internet for all to see that the Mac version will be available as a download only in the same varieties as the Windows version, Deluxe, Collectors, etc. There is no reason to charge more, it's already £44-60.
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Borderlands 2, Sid Meiers, Mafia II and others are cheeper in the Mac App Store. Some games available in the Mac App Store are not available for Mac with Steam