-Blizzard, Ubisoft, Nintendo, Valve games don't come with online passes. (maybe some Ubisoft ones do?)Y'know, it still makes me giggle. Blizzard-Activision, Ubisoft, Nintendo, Microsoft, Valve, etc, are just as bad as EA, yet people will trip over each other to bash EA.
This one is down to both Activision and EA. But you're right, however it's a comparative thing. EA and Activision launch games higher than most. Sim City, a digital game launched at £40 here, or 45 for a limited edition version even with in-game advertising (which is used to make games cheaper)! That's a joke of a price! New, physical console games cost less.And before you bitch about game prices, games are actually cheaper today than they were in previous generations, and in most cases that was even before inflation. I remember being 16 and saving up the $74.95 + tax to get Ocarina of Time when it came out.
No, but Blizzard requires 24/7 internet connection for a single player game. A game I might add that was pretty unplayable its first month out because the servers were down.-Blizzard, Ubisoft, Nintendo, Valve games don't come with online passes. (maybe some Ubisoft ones do?)
-They buy out small studios, have them work on 1 or 2 games and close them
-They sell the same sports games year in year out when there's a great structure in-place (DLC) to prevent that
-They sell their games
-In-game adverts, but no pricing offset to customers
-They removed content from Steam, and if their games stopped working for you (authentication codes etc), they would send you a new copy on Origin instead
-Origin has spyware and is heavily bloated
-Forcing us to use Origin, even on consoles
-Closing down servers for active games
-Horrible "pay to finish the game" DLC (Mass Effect 3, Dead Space 3)
-They've announced every game of theirs will have microtransactions, but will obviously remain full price
-The whole Sim City disaster
-(and I'm not sure about this one, all I know is South Park brought it up) their college sports stars are screwed over by EA
-And overall a general lack of support or apathy for customers.
Nice article about it here http://www.original-gamer.com/article/5395-Peter-Moores-defense-of-EA-is-an-example-of-why-EA-sucks
Whereas some of those points can be attributed to the studios you mentioned (Activision especially), the others really listen to what people want. Valve are so customer-facing that they don't even tell people who sell games on it what they're planning. No beta invites for new Steam features. It's amazing. EA doesn't do that.
Nintendo are also facing towards smaller developers and customers. EA don't.
Blizzard just do whatever they want.
Ubisoft make mistakes and fix them quickly. EA don't.
This one is down to both Activision and EA. But you're right, however it's a comparative thing. EA and Activision launch games higher than most. Sim City, a digital game launched at £40 here, or 45 for a limited edition version even with in-game advertising (which is used to make games cheaper)! That's a joke of a price! New, physical console games cost less.
(also why with all the "bitching"?)
My guess is that the next gen systems may offer new, different technology to accomplish the same thing. So the online pass system may become obsolete anyways, but by publicly dropping it half a year early, EA can get some good press for once.
I hope I am wrong though!
The PS4 doesn't require an internet connection, so it's fine.Looks like I was not wrong.
Still no clear words from Sony, but it likely be similar to MS's system...
The PS4 doesn't require an internet connection, so it's fine.
No - Sony flat out said that it will not require ever being connected to the internet as many parts of the world it sells to don't have reliable internet connections.But those statements are anything but clear. The XBone also does not require an "always on" connection. It only checks in once a day. And the XBone also does not block the sale of used games, it is up to the publishers to decide that.
Sony could still have the EXACT same measures in place, and their statements in the past would not be incorrect.
I really hope that is not the case, but I am not going to start singing their praise until we get some definite facts on the matter.
No - Sony flat out said that it will not require ever being connected to the internet as many parts of the world it sells to don't have reliable internet connections.
That's far different from Microsoft's check in approach.
I must have missed that quote...do you have a source? All I saw was them stating it wouldn't have to be "always on" for said reasons.
Michael Denny | Sony said:So I think two of the other pillars we talked about in-terms of design were simplicity and immediacy. Even taking back a step from here, PlayStation 4 can still be enjoyed old school without an Internet connection at all. So it depends what level you want to use these feature sets at. So with ’simple’ and ’immediacy’ we want it so that everything is one button click away, for example. And ’immediacy’ takes down these barriers that can be frustrating to gamers between the player getting access to the content.
Eurogamer interview said:Eurogamer: Does the console always need to be connected to the internet?
Shuhei Yoshida: You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected. The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita.
Eurogamer: Are all of those things optional? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?
Shuhei Yoshida: Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that.
Now Gamer said:The creator of Sony's PS4, Mark Cerny, has confirmed that the next-gen console won't require an internet connection.
Published on Jun 3, 2013
There's been much aggro for both Sony and Microsoft over the PS4 and Xbox One since their reveals surrounding speculation that next-gen consoles will require an internet connection to use them.
Many expect this to be a measure of DRM, keeping track of which games are owned by the player prior to playing their games.
Sony's Mark Cerny has revealed that the PS4 will not require an internet connection, however, reiterating Shuhei Yoshida's previous comment that Sony hadn't considered an always-on internet connection for the PS4.
Of course they could go back on it all, but we wait and see.Yoshida interview said:If the idea of an always-online future puts you off next-gen consoles, then the PS4 might be the console for you.
Published on May 8, 2013
Microsoft could well be looking to enable an always-online internet requirement for the Xbox 720 if recent rumours are to be believed, causing a discussion from many gamers who would rather not be forced online.
This widely-discussed topic has meant that Sony has been brought into the conversation too, with Game Informer asking Sony Worldwide Studios' president Shuhei Yoshida in the latest issue of the magazine about the PS4's approach to an always-connected mandatory online next-gen console.
"Did we consider it?" said Yoshida. "No, we didn’t consider it. The main reason being that many countries don’t have robust internet connections."
Even here in the UK there are many parts of the country that simply don't have the internet infrastructure required to power an always-online console, something many of our readers lamented when the Xbox 720 rumours were revealed.
"It makes sense for people to have internet connections to play online games," added Yoshida, "but for offline games there are many countries that we saw [that] do not really have robust internet.”
So breathe easy, gamers, you won't need an internet connection to use your PS4.
Thanks for the info - nice to know - especially for us vintage gamers wanting to play games on the console when it goes obsolete...Of course they could go back on it all, but we wait and see.
But assuming games can be played without an internet connection at all, then clearly you cant force a DRM checking system into the mix without an internet connection - so the assumption is of course that there will be no DRM on PS4.
Remember in publishers get their way they will be taking a cut of the pot at the 'retailers' side of things. So if those things are in place there actually isn't a need to punish gamers with a DRM system.
The reason Microsoft have had to introduce it is so that games can be installed directly to the HDD and then played without the disc. So clearly they would need some form of DRM in order to make this possible otherwise everyone would simply buy a game, install it to their xbox and then trade it in or sell it.
I likewise assume therefore the PS4 will require the disc to be in the console. Not that it makes a huge difference. I'd rather settle for that than have stronger enforced DRM.