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britneyfan

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Apple is selling the base 15" Retina refurbished for $1699 on their site.

If I can't find a deal on the current one for $1750 or less on Friday or Monday, I might go for this one.

Is there a big difference? Would it last me less amount of time?
 
Apple is selling the base 15" Retina refurbished for $1699 on their site.

If I can't find a deal on the current one for $1750 or less on Friday or Monday, I might go for this one.

Is there a big difference? Would it last me less amount of time?

The differences are as follows:

1. Battery life: better in late 2013
2. CPU: equivalent
3. GPU: integrated -- better in late 2013; discrete -- absent in late 2013, thus better in early 2013
4. SSD: better in late 2013, but difference won't really be noticeable in regular use.
5. Everything else: more or less the same.

So I suppose that you'll be sacrificing a little bit of battery life and integrated GPU performance for a discrete GPU.

I hope this helps.

Regards
Raptor
 
I just purchased a new rMBP 15" for $1599 directly from Apple taking advantage of their sweet $400 off deal.

I looked everywhere and that was the best deal hands down. I think the deal you found $1750 for their $1999 is as close as you're going to get unless you are a developer and can get the $1599 deal directly from Apple that I got.

If you are saving $51 on a refurb versus getting a new one, call me odd but I think I would get the new one for $51 more if I could. Yes I know the older one has discrete graphics, but thats about the only thing it has over the new rMBP. The refurb should be fine, comes with the warranty and everything, just it's a psychological thing I suppose.
 
The differences are as follows:

1. Battery life: better in late 2013
2. CPU: equivalent
3. GPU: integrated -- better in late 2013; discrete -- absent in late 2013, thus better in early 2013
4. SSD: better in late 2013, but difference won't really be noticeable in regular use.
5. Everything else: more or less the same.

So I suppose that you'll be sacrificing a little bit of battery life and integrated GPU performance for a discrete GPU.

I hope this helps.

Regards
Raptor

Thanks!!!
What's the difference between discrete and integrated GPU?

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I just purchased a new rMBP 15" for $1599 directly from Apple taking advantage of their sweet $400 off deal.

I looked everywhere and that was the best deal hands down. I think the deal you found $1750 for their $1999 is as close as you're going to get unless you are a developer and can get the $1599 deal directly from Apple that I got.

If you are saving $51 on a refurb versus getting a new one, call me odd but I think I would get the new one for $51 more if I could. Yes I know the older one has discrete graphics, but thats about the only thing it has over the new rMBP. The refurb should be fine, comes with the warranty and everything, just it's a psychological thing I suppose.

If you're a developer you get $400 off?
I am a developer, I just haven't renewed my account for the $99 a year.
 
Thanks!!!
What's the difference between discrete and integrated GPU?

The Intel CPU inside the MacBooks has an integrated GPU. The 2012 rMBP and the top model late 2013 rMBP have a discrete NVidia Graphics card (on a separate chip), which is a lot more powerful (though battery eating) than the integrated GPU. For most low level tasks, the integrated GPU is powerful enough to provide a steady, consistent workflow. Graphic intensive tasks, on the other hand, are a completely different thing. If you plan to do anything graphically intensive (such as gaming), a discrete GPU will be essential.

However, don't misread what I said -- even if your machine has a discrete GPU, it'll be running the integrated GPU most of the time, so battery loss due to GPU is not an issue.

I hope this helps.

Raptor
 
The Intel CPU inside the MacBooks has an integrated GPU. The 2012 rMBP and the top model late 2013 rMBP have a discrete NVidia Graphics card (on a separate chip), which is a lot more powerful (though battery eating) than the integrated GPU. For most low level tasks, the integrated GPU is powerful enough to provide a steady, consistent workflow. Graphic intensive tasks, on the other hand, are a completely different thing. If you plan to do anything graphically intensive (such as gaming), a discrete GPU will be essential.

However, don't misread what I said -- even if your machine has a discrete GPU, it'll be running the integrated GPU most of the time, so battery loss due to GPU is not an issue.

I hope this helps.

Raptor
It helps a lot!
So if I do some video and photo-editing, the discrete GPU will come in handy?

And both computers are about the same speed?
 
It helps a lot!
So if I do some video and photo-editing, the discrete GPU will come in handy?

And both computers are about the same speed?

Well, the difference is negligible.

Video and photo-editing are more CPU intensive tasks than GPU intensive. However, there are some processing software that use GPU acceleration for shading, etc. in video editing.

Raptor
 
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