'Early 2020' revision of 16"?

Arise2B

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When it is expected to have an updated revision of 16"? I had to return mine because of some keyboard keys were too loud (other than that there were no major issues and I really loved it). Now thinking if there is a chance to have an 'Early 2020' revision. The question is when the 'Early 2020' might happen and how one would know that it is there?
 
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When it is expected to have an updated revision of 16"? I had to return mine because of some keyboard keys were too loud (other than that there were no major issues and I really loved it). Now thinking if there is a chance to have an 'Early 2020' revision. The question is when the 'Early 2020' might happen and how one would know that it is there?
Keys were too loud? Seriously, WTF? Don't take it personally, but it becomes really hard to distinguish between genuine problems and OCD on this forum.
 

jerryk

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When it is expected to have an updated revision of 16"? I had to return mine because of some keyboard keys were too loud (other than that there were no major issues and I really loved it). Now thinking if there is a chance to have an 'Early 2020' revision. The question is when the 'Early 2020' might happen and how one would know that it is there?
As far as the keyboard goes you are definitely in the minority, so I doubt Apple is going to change the keyboard.
 
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Falhófnir

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late 2020 is the rumour from Kuo, so I highly doubt there will be an early 2020 revision. At most I would expect the current machine to get a chip bump at WWDC in June, and that's only if the late 2020 is an actual redesign (in which case it will most likely be an additional ARM computer line).
 
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marcinq

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Highly unlikely that there will be any upgrade to the 16" since 1. it has just been released 2. apparently no new cpus will be available
 
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LoganT

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When it is expected to have an updated revision of 16"? I had to return mine because of some keyboard keys were too loud (other than that there were no major issues and I really loved it). Now thinking if there is a chance to have an 'Early 2020' revision. The question is when the 'Early 2020' might happen and how one would know that it is there?
Did you let Apple know you removed the delete key and wrapped the rod in plastic tape because it was too loud? I’d hate for someone to get your tampered with computer.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-certain-keys-are-much-louder-than-others.2213468/post-28022967

I read stuff like this and I wonder how some people are even able to survive in the real world.
 
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Strangedream

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Most likely "late 2020", Apple being Apple, they will milk the 2019-model as much as they can before releasing an update.

PS. If you think the keys on the 2019 MBP were loud you definitely haven't heard the 2016 MBP keyboard in action ...
 
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Arise2B

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I have just recently become part of the community, but have already observed that there is a competition in spiteful commenting among some people here, and that is a bit upsetting. :-(

Back to the topic: I have mentioned in multiple posts here that the actual Magic Keyboard keys are more consistent, as well as v4 Butterfly Keyboard is also more consistent - all the keys sound and behave exactly the same. Whereas 16" is non-consistent - delete, enter, caps lock and tab keys are flimsy, compared to other keys. So when I write it sounds ok, but then when I press 'delete', it just overly loud comparing to others (I mean heavily irritatingly loud).

Now, since I have seen that Apple _can_ make a consistent keyboard (Magic Keyboard), there is a small hope that they might improve it in the next revision. So my question is if one can distinguish the 'next revision' at all? Since Apple's revisions are usually called with 'Early-YYYY' or 'Late-YYYY'), when does the 'Early-2020' revision starts? 01.01.2019? Or this all is pointless at all and there will be no revisions till August 2020?
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Did you let Apple know you removed the delete key and wrapped the rod in plastic tape because it was too loud? I’d hate for someone to get your tampered with computer.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/16-certain-keys-are-much-louder-than-others.2213468/post-28022967

I read stuff like this and I wonder how some people are even able to survive in the real world.
Of course I have removed the 'fix' from the delete key before sending it back. So that whoever gets it refurbished wll fully enjoy the loudness of the delete (and all the other keys) in full glory (as it was designed initially). :) That is the 'Magic' in the Magic keyboard, so that you can actually un-click and click-back the keys, as it was in pre-butterfly era. But buying a 3K> machine and forcing yourself to modify it right away is not a cool thing to do.
 
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Man, the reason people return things in here gets weirder and weirder every day.

Also OP, your question is ridiculous. No one is going to know about a "revision" to the keyboard until its purchased. And a "revision" isn't going to happen because its not actually an issue.
 
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I have just recently become part of the community, but have already observed that there is a competition in spiteful commenting among some people here, and that is a bit upsetting. :-(

Back to the topic: I have mentioned in multiple posts here that the actual Magic Keyboard keys are more consistent, as well as v4 Butterfly Keyboard is also more consistent - all the keys shound and behave exactly. Whereas 16" is non-consistent - delete, enter, caps lock and tab keys are flimsy, compared to other keys. So when I write it sounds ok, but then when I press 'delete', it just overly loud comparing to others.

Now, since I have seen that Apple _can_ make a consistent keyboard (Magic Keyboard), there is a small hope that they might improve it in the next revision. So my question is if one can distinguish the 'next revision' at all? Since Apple's revisions are usually called with 'Early-YYYY' or 'Late-YYYY'), when does the 'Early-2020' revision starts? 01.01.2019? Or this all is pointless at all and there will be no revisions till August 2020?
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Of course I have removed the 'fix' from the delete key before sending it back. So that whoever gets it refurbished wll fully enjoy the loudness of the delete (and all the other keys) in full glory (as it was designed initially). :) That is the 'Magic' in the Magic keyboard, so that you can actually un-click and click-back the keys, as it was in pre-butterfly era. But buying a 3K> machine and forcing yourself to modify it right away is not a cool thing to do.
You just had me pressing my delete, tab and enter keys on my 16" and you are correct. There is a difference in the sound and the flimsyness compared to the rest of the keys. Has anyone figured out why?

I can see how that can bother someone. Thanks OP I never knew I had OCD lol. I have the 2019 15" right next to me now going back and forth typing on the 16"
 
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LoganT

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Just tested it and theres no discernible difference. Larger keys on keyboards are louder because they’re larger. I don’t think you guys have OCD, if anything I think you guys might have misophonia.
 

leman

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When it is expected to have an updated revision of 16"? I had to return mine because of some keyboard keys were too loud (other than that there were no major issues and I really loved it). Now thinking if there is a chance to have an 'Early 2020' revision. The question is when the 'Early 2020' might happen and how one would know that it is there?
I expect a CPU upgrade in spring (between March and may) and then a more substantial upgrade in autumn.
 
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Fishrrman

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OP wrote:
"The question is when the 'Early 2020' might happen and how one would know that it is there?"

I'm confident that there will be no "early 2020" revision of the 16".

There -might- be a "late 2020" -- see todays's MacRumors home page.
If not late 2020, then spring 2021.
 
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leman

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OP wrote:
"The question is when the 'Early 2020' might happen and how one would know that it is there?"

I'm confident that there will be no "early 2020" revision of the 16".

There -might- be a "late 2020" -- see todays's MacRumors home page.
If not late 2020, then spring 2021.
What gives you the confidence? There is a CPU refresh coming in early 2020.