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Early Apple TV Sales Estimated at 1 Million Per Quarter
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Looks like a great box, I'd probably buy one of it supported sdtv.
Did it? Numbers?
So far just a rumor, but if it costs that much they'll have an uphill battle.
Did it? Numbers?
So far just a rumor, but if it costs that much they'll have an uphill battle.
it is more functional. but with TV's, bluray players already having netflix, you are really buying into the iTunes store and airplay.
I was wondering...
Is it that every new Apple product these days is such a hit that they can't meet demands anymore or is it that Apple simply don't builds enough of these product to create the illusion that the world is all over Apple products?
Is it that every new Apple product these days is such a hit that they can't meet demands anymore or is it that Apple simply don't builds enough of these product to create the illusion that the world is all over Apple products?
I am very impressed with my AppleTV and have used it everyday since it's released. Would like 1080P, but I gotta say that the picture quality is excellent even at 720P.
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I jut cant see myself paying to rent shows when I can PVR them for free with windows media center using a regular antenna and I get all the major networks...netflix would be nice however my internet connection just isn't fast enough (200kBps down) and I have a 30gb data cap so likely netflix would put a serious hurt on that...but living in the country in Canada there are no better options for me
I jut cant see myself paying to rent shows when I can PVR them for free with windows media center using a regular antenna and I get all the major networks...netflix would be nice however my internet connection just isn't fast enough (200kBps down) and I have a 30gb data cap so likely netflix would put a serious hurt on that...but living in the country in Canada there are no better options for me
I was wondering...
Is it that every new Apple product these days is such a hit that they can't meet demands anymore or is it that Apple simply don't builds enough of these products to create the illusion that the world is all over Apple products?
I kind of miss the days when you could walk in an Apple Store any time and pickup any product you wanted...
Got one
I lucked out. My local Apple store had two in the back when I stopped in last Friday. Haven't tried all the features yet, but the Netflix experience blows away what I had on the XBox.
I think the $99.00 price point, and the relatively low key introduction makes the Apple TV a veritable Trojan Horse for Apple to take hold of the living room. Regardless of Apple's TV aspirations, consider this... iPad and iPhone Games can now be scaled up to much higher resolutions, resolutions that would look pretty good on that HDTV. Combine your Apple TV with the touch compatible device of your choice as controller and not only do you have an app that be used for handheld gaming, but also for gaming on the big screen.
Sure, it's not likely to compete with consoles like the PS3, XBox, or Wii, but it could allow Apple to further blow-up the hand held market and steal away a bit of console market share.
I lucked out. My local Apple store had two in the back when I stopped in last Friday. Haven't tried all the features yet, but the Netflix experience blows away what I had on the XBox.
I think the $99.00 price point, and the relatively low key introduction makes the Apple TV a veritable Trojan Horse for Apple to take hold of the living room. Regardless of Apple's TV aspirations, consider this... iPad and iPhone Games can now be scaled up to much higher resolutions, resolutions that would look pretty good on that HDTV. Combine your Apple TV with the touch compatible device of your choice as controller and not only do you have an app that be used for handheld gaming, but also for gaming on the big screen.
Sure, it's not likely to compete with consoles like the PS3, XBox, or Wii, but it could allow Apple to further blow-up the hand held market and steal away a bit of console market share.
I have to agree with you on this. Even though my LCD TV has Netflix built in the interface left a lot to be desired.
Still, I'm hoping a software update will return a few features missing from the previous aTV:
-No iTunes xTras support
-No iTunes LP support
I'm confident those features will be re-added in the next few months though.
Between the content that I can buy or rent from iTunes and the integrated support from Netflix, it suits my needs very well. With the addition of an App store for the AppleTV, or a patch from the aTV folks, I'd like to see the addition of Pandora and HULU (not the Plus version) and the opening up of the micro USB port for local storage.
What Apple does very well with products like these is provide an easy to use, consistent UI, something I'm not sure, based on what I've seen on GoogleTV, that Google can do. But we'll see. The success of both of these products, unfortunately, is still in the hands of the content providers and ISP's.
Are we past Early Adopters?
Until we see what kind of apps (games, chat, downloads, TV helpers) appear, it will still be a tech-savvy crowd using it. $99 sets the price/performance sweet spot that others will have to compete within. Apple has set the bar both for features and again for entry price. -RJ
Until we see what kind of apps (games, chat, downloads, TV helpers) appear, it will still be a tech-savvy crowd using it. $99 sets the price/performance sweet spot that others will have to compete within. Apple has set the bar both for features and again for entry price. -RJ
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The netflix implementation on bluray and tv is really hit or miss. Plus many people are ditching physical media altogether and have no need for a bluray deck.
dwd3885 said:
The netflix implementation on bluray and tv is really hit or miss. Plus many people are ditching physical media altogether and have no need for a bluray deck.
There are no TV shows available for rent in Canada anyway.
Your cable(satellite?) subscription that allows you to use your PVR isn't free, and depending on the provider you may have to pay a separate fee for the PVR rental if you didn't buy it outright, otherwise the cost is baked into the subscription itself. One way or another, you are paying for the PVR.
You are right though, internet streaming isn't for you. Hopefully you get some better internet service in your area.
It amazes me that apple can sell a second rate product so fast, so quickly, and with massive profits! Gotta hand it to apple, they got "it"
I must say, when I got my first generation Apple TV I largely stopped using my PS3 and my Cable box. I have yet to go back to the movie rental place. Even at 720p, the picture is better than what I get from the local cable company. (Far better than the PPV HD they provide). iTunes does compression very well.
It would be nice if they had uncompressed 7.1 audio and 1080p vid, I can not see that happening due to bandwidth restrictions.
I was going to buy this nice little gadget however I just recently heard about google TV so I will be waiting....
Not its rumored price. They should be trying to put it into cable boxes if they want it to be successful.
I guess I just don't understand the value (for me at least) of the ATV.
1)I get the streaming Netflix concept...that's easily understood and I can do that already. So no value here for me. Besides, I think the Netflix selection stinks for streaming...not to mention the performance.
2)I can pay and rent tv shows...? why? Why not just watch them or record them with my dvr every week? Unless there are very premium shows like HBO or Showtime (for $.99) that I do not have to own HBO or Showtime. My tv cable bill alone is $70/month for 1 cablebox...I'm not paying $.99 to watch a Seinfeld rerun that is on TBS every day or the newest Discovery Channel show that I can dvr for free.
3)There is no mention that I can store my bazillion dvds or blurays on the ATV. Nor can I attach a USB drive filled with movies. Nor is there any mention of streaming these movies from my personal network (and even if I could, I would bet I would be forced to store my movies in iTunes).
4)I can rent movies. From where? Who promises and guarantees the quality? And I only get 24 hours to watch it from the second I press Play? This concept (common in Pay Per View) has annoyed me for years. There are plenty of times that I'd like to watch the movie again...or the wife fell asleep...or something interrupted us. I'll keep my simple 3-dvd Netflix account where I can easily rent 10+ month for about $15 (compared to $40 if I rented via Apple)...all in beautiful quality with no cable operators pointing fingers at why the video stinks/freezes/performs badly. And I can watch the movie more than once if needed...or pause/resume quite easily...or take it to another dvd/bluray player.
Whether it's $99 or $299, I just don't get what the lure is unless you're a consumer who owns no cable and thus has nothing to begin with. I bought a Western Digital WD TV a few weeks ago and love it for #3 above. The $99 ATV price is very catchy but after thinking it out for a few mins, at least for me, I don't see the point. Unless someone can elaborate on something I'm overlooking.
Hey, I'm all ears if someone can give me some reasons to buy ATV.
-Eric
1)I get the streaming Netflix concept...that's easily understood and I can do that already. So no value here for me. Besides, I think the Netflix selection stinks for streaming...not to mention the performance.
2)I can pay and rent tv shows...? why? Why not just watch them or record them with my dvr every week? Unless there are very premium shows like HBO or Showtime (for $.99) that I do not have to own HBO or Showtime. My tv cable bill alone is $70/month for 1 cablebox...I'm not paying $.99 to watch a Seinfeld rerun that is on TBS every day or the newest Discovery Channel show that I can dvr for free.
3)There is no mention that I can store my bazillion dvds or blurays on the ATV. Nor can I attach a USB drive filled with movies. Nor is there any mention of streaming these movies from my personal network (and even if I could, I would bet I would be forced to store my movies in iTunes).
4)I can rent movies. From where? Who promises and guarantees the quality? And I only get 24 hours to watch it from the second I press Play? This concept (common in Pay Per View) has annoyed me for years. There are plenty of times that I'd like to watch the movie again...or the wife fell asleep...or something interrupted us. I'll keep my simple 3-dvd Netflix account where I can easily rent 10+ month for about $15 (compared to $40 if I rented via Apple)...all in beautiful quality with no cable operators pointing fingers at why the video stinks/freezes/performs badly. And I can watch the movie more than once if needed...or pause/resume quite easily...or take it to another dvd/bluray player.
Whether it's $99 or $299, I just don't get what the lure is unless you're a consumer who owns no cable and thus has nothing to begin with. I bought a Western Digital WD TV a few weeks ago and love it for #3 above. The $99 ATV price is very catchy but after thinking it out for a few mins, at least for me, I don't see the point. Unless someone can elaborate on something I'm overlooking.
Hey, I'm all ears if someone can give me some reasons to buy ATV.
-Eric
Apps = Success
I think if Apple releases an App store for the AppleTV it's really going to be a hit. Too bad it only has 8GB of storage on board though. I suppose that's enough for a bunch of small apps but it does limit it's ability to be used as a gaming system (there are some neat games for the iOS and it'd be neat to have some ports for the TV).
I think if Apple releases an App store for the AppleTV it's really going to be a hit. Too bad it only has 8GB of storage on board though. I suppose that's enough for a bunch of small apps but it does limit it's ability to be used as a gaming system (there are some neat games for the iOS and it'd be neat to have some ports for the TV).
I've got one. It works really well and I'm happy with it. My only small complaint is with the remote. The design is nice and small, but I find it to be really weak. I need to point it directly at the box to get it to work. Of course my iPhone works better as the remote, so it's only a very small complaint.
A few years ago I tried streaming my iTunes music wirelessly to my stereo using an Airport Express. I could never get it to work well. It would always drop in and out of connectivity, sometimes OK, sometimes terrible. I live in a hi rise downtown in a large city, and figured there's too much interference with the signal. So far, streaming music through the new Apple TV has worked flawlessly. I suspect there's some buffering going on with the internal memory, but that's just a guess.
A few years ago I tried streaming my iTunes music wirelessly to my stereo using an Airport Express. I could never get it to work well. It would always drop in and out of connectivity, sometimes OK, sometimes terrible. I live in a hi rise downtown in a large city, and figured there's too much interference with the signal. So far, streaming music through the new Apple TV has worked flawlessly. I suspect there's some buffering going on with the internal memory, but that's just a guess.
I don't see them going with a gaming system for the Apple TV. At that point, you have to consider what to use as a controller (remote, or iPhone/iPod/iPad) and how the devices will interact with each other. Eventually, it becomes simpler (which seems to be Apple's preferred methodology) to just buy a game console to play games on your television.
There are two apps that I think would greatly help the AppleTV.
1) Hulu. With a limited, commercial-supported library that allows for free viewing, and a login option for Hulu Plus.
2) On Demand Events. I already suggested this through Apple's feedback, but currently I pay my cable company about $70 a month for the privilege of paying them another $40 to watch UFC or whatnot. If Apple could work out it's own Pay-Per-View system for sporting events they may carve quite a little niche for themselves.
It sounds like the Apple TV isn't the right media player for you and the WD TV is.
It's nice to have a few good options on the market.
I saw that too...Netflix is awesome on this device...and I also compared it to my PS3....
I am running a 1080p Panasonic 54 inch 600HZ subfield drive Plasma.
If true and the price for gTV will be ~$300 its going to be difficult for hardware manufacturers. Average consumers will not pay that much for a stand alone device. If they make it cheaper, the manufactures may be slicing their profit margins too thin. They will have no way to drive additional income from the devices like Apple can once they open the app store. Unless Google is going to give kick backs to Sony/Logitech.
For Google to be really successful at this TV biz, they need 3 things:
1. A superior product/experience (for the average consumer)
2. Hardware costs need to be below $150 either as a stand alone device or add on cost.
3. It needs to just work. If the Sony remote shown is any indicator, its not off to a good start. Ma and Pa consumer will not be happy with using that thing.
Most posters in this and other tech forums don't really fall into the category of "average consumer" so many of you may not have an issue with the remote or issues with the learning curve it may take to use the device. I think this is where Apple has an advantage right now. But that is said without actually using a Google TV. If it comes out at an attractive price and is really easy to use, Apple will have problems.
I am glad to see Apple TV taking off like it should.
I hope Apple reboots iPod Hi-Fi like they did with Apple TV. Those were priced right and the quality of the speakers was excellent. Maybe someday it will at least get hobby status.
I hope Apple reboots iPod Hi-Fi like they did with Apple TV. Those were priced right and the quality of the speakers was excellent. Maybe someday it will at least get hobby status.